HIGHLANDS GUY

All of this is well and good, but do wins really measure how good (or bad) a coach is?

My experience has been that coaches tend to play everyone who can possibly help them. If a coach has seven (7) players that can help them they go seven (7) deep. If a coach has seven (7) players that can help them and they get a transfer that can help them then suddenly they go eight (8) deep. Yes there are a finite number of minutes in a game and yes more players might mean that some players time is reduced, however, IF you can play the game, then you will see time on the court.

VOR: Since I respect your opinion, why do you have Listerman so high?

And even a couple that you had more than talent than. :jump:

Isn't that where Tracey played as well?

I am a fan of Henley's. It is important to remember that aside from x's and o's, he faces much different challenges than most coaches in NKY.

Is Grant Brannen really in the top 10 in the NKY?

It matters, but not a ton. In other words the margin for error is much greater with T and X than anyplace else.

And some parents realize that a high school sports career are some of the best days of a kids life and want the best for them.

Again we do not know. However, if Hammond’s testimony was the only testimony stating that the transfer was athletically motivated, then without it there was no evidence. I have also heard that if the original school “objects” to the transfer, then the KHSAA will automatically find the athlete ineligible. That doesn’t explain (and I have no clue) why the hearing officer upheld the ruling. For the record, I have no blinders on and if you asked me if I think did sports play a role in the kid’s transfer I would say “definitely I believe it”. However, me believing the kid transferred due to sports and being able to say with any certainty that is the case are different.

Which was the only reason I jumped into this thread. Found the early tone of this thread hard to believe.

We don’t know why he was ruled ineligible initially or why the hearing officer upheld the ineligibility other than to say that Hammond’s testimony was part of it (dare I say a big part of it), because after they read the emails, they no longer thought his word was credible. We also don’t know why he transferred and probably the KHSAA doesn’t either. However, by their ruling they are saying that the reasons Hammond were giving for their transfer can’t be believed. You can believe that this is a smoking gun if you want, but I am telling you that it is just speculation. My guess if you talk to the family they can give a handful of other factors that were key in their transferring their child to Lexington Catholic that don’t involve athletics. Bottom line, we don't know all of the reasons given why he transferred and ultimately we do no know why he transferred. To my knowledge, the KHSAA rules do not specify the distance required to achieve a bona-fide change of residence. Only that a bona-fide change of residence must occur. Also neither the KHSAA or the Hurt family, cares if Park1221 thinks that “dog will hunt”. Pretty much your entire argument is based on your opinion, thankfully there has to be real evidence of motivation. You discount their move because it doesn’t fit with your theory, but the dad supposedly having an argument with a coach or playing summer ball for the Lexington Catholic coach is elevated to carry more weight because it supports your theory. My guess, and it is just a guess, is there are probably many other factors besides these three (3). We just don’t know enough facts to argue whether the transfer was legit or not. However, as Clyde said, what we do know is: -The coach was not very smart. -The coach exercised a serious lack of maturity.

I will ask the same question of you. Did you take the time to read the article? The ineligible ruling and the hearing officer upholding the ruling were based at lease in part on Hammonds testimony. In the article it states that, "evidence of the e-mails casts doubt on the credibility" of Hammond's testimony "and calls into question whether or not the original objection of Henry Clay was a valid objection." To draw any conclusions about why the Hurt's chose to move their son is purely speculation. unless you are the family or the family has communicated to you about their motivation. You also forgot to mention that the article states that Hurt's moved "across town", did this play a part too? Who knows? It would be just as much speculation saying this was the reason as saying it was because the kid was a good baseball player. One this for certain there is nothing to make me believe that Hammond had anyone's best interest at heart other than his own. However, he lost his job for breaking the rules.

You might be right. I hate to paint with such a broad brush, but... Again, to me the most troubling part of this is his email to the Lex. Cath. coach asking him not to play the kid. Youth sports have way too many coaches who love the sport more than they love the kids playing the sport. By his actions I would question if this were not the case with this guy and if that were so my guess is that it isn't the first time in 17 years that he has put the sport in front of the athlete. However, he didn't get fired for that, he got fired for breaking the KHSAA rules.

I think Colerain knows exactly what they are doing in making out their schedule and that this years faux pas of missing the playoffs will not happen again.

In the vast marjority of transfer cases, the motivation behind a transfer is rarely known. I do not believe that the KHSAA would have ruled the kid eligible if they had evidence that the transfer was athletically motivated. What is known is that Hammond broke KHSAA rules. Also no matter if the reason behind the transfer was legit or not, I find it very troubling that an adult educator would send an email asking the Lex. Cath. coach not to play the kid. That speaks more to me about the character of the coach than the 17 years he put into the program. Sounds like a bitter person with a fragile ego.

Obviously Anderson was willing to play Boone, but how many of those other schools are willing to play NKY teams and in this case specifically Ryle? There were rumors that Winton Woods and Highlands were talking, beyond that it is a fairly big risk for the OH schools to take unless they know without a shadow of a doubt they will get the W.

My bad everyone. Thanks CF.

2010 the game will be at Colerain 2011 the game will be at Ryle. Ryan Ernst is reporting this on his blog.

Maybe two of them.

Who interviewed?

If Will and his dad are really saying things then the young man will likely never regain his eligiblity.

If neither parent actually moved and he just switched which parent he was living with then I don't think he will gain eligibility. Not that I agree with it, but these situations have come up in the past.

The coach from Princeton needs to wash his hair. It was gross.

I know you have the FT percentages, but how many free throws, attempted and made did each team have? Covington Catholic was in the bonus in the first quarter.