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You are correct sir. Mr. T said it best. Lol

Bragging about winning the 63rd last year was hardly a good nail to hang his hat on. I saw Greenup play seven times last year and I have to say they can do better. Best of luck to this coach in his new position though.

Feel free to call and set up an appointment any time you want to get it directly from me.

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Hard to imagine anyone wanting a part of the Hornet's Nest at this point.

I don't recall anyone else mentioning this when he was hired besides myself. Perhaps my recall isn't what it was.

I said it was a big mistake when they hired him. Where were you on the subject???

I'll have to say, I saw this one coming.

This was started in December and only concerns last years team.

It wasn't a shock, it was a coin flip. They both finished 18-14 in a weak four team district. Both cake walked to the regional and lost. Of their 18 wins only five came against teams with a winning record. ( Russell, Pikeville, Fairview, Clinton Co and Ironton, Oh) The win against Ironton was later avenged by the Tigers with a 46 point win, once they had their full compliment of players. So, I wouldn't give Coach Youngman any accolades just yet. The combined record for the teams Greenup defeated was 229-284. Dec 2, 11 Russell away 43 - 68 (L) no Dec 3, 11 Betsy Layne away 42 - 44 (L) no Dec 9, 11 Lewis County home 63 - 35 (W) no Dec 10, 11 Menifee County home 68 - 62 (W) no Dec 13, 11 East Carter home 49 - 41 (W) no Dec 17, 11 West Carter away 56 - 66 (L) no Dec 20, 11 Boyle County at Mercer County 46 - 61 (L) no Whitaker Bank Fort Harrod Classic Dec 21, 11 DuPont Manual at Mercer County 35 - 70 (L) no Whitaker Bank Fort Harrod Classic Dec 22, 11 Marion County at Mercer County 47 - 52 (L) no Whitaker Bank Fort Harrod Classic Dec 23, 11 Boyd County at Mercer County 62 - 33 (W) no Whitaker Bank Fort Harrod Classic Dec 28, 11 Pike County Central at Pikeville 50 - 26 (W) no Pikeville Invitational Tournament Dec 29, 11 Pikeville away 46 - 53 (L) no Pikeville Invitational Tournament Dec 30, 11 Allen Central at Pikeville 49 - 45 (W) no Pikeville Invitational Tournament Jan 4, 12 Morgan County away 54 - 53 (W) no Jan 6, 12 Boyd County away 43 - 53 (L) no Jan 7, 12 Raceland away 61 - 47 (W) no Jan 10, 12 Ironton, OH home 62 - 57 (W) no Jan 13, 12 Lewis County away 54 - 37 (W) no Jan 14, 12 St. Patrick away 55 - 68 (L) no Jan 17, 12 Ashland Blazer home 33 - 72 (L) no Jan 19, 12 East Carter away 46 - 56 (L) no Jan 20, 12 Ironton, OH away 26 - 72 (L) no Jan 21, 12 Pikeville home 58 - 38 (W) no Jan 24, 12 Fairview home 58 - 50 (W) no Jan 27, 12 Russell home 40 - 61 (L) no Feb 2, 12 Raceland home 65 - 56 (W) no Feb 4, 12 Clinton County at Riverside Christian 57 - 37 (W) no Riverside Prep Showcase Feb 7, 12 South Point, OH home 70 - 39 (W) no Feb 11, 12 Boyd County home 46 - 39 (W) no Feb 21, 12 Raceland home 50 - 30 (W) no 63rd District Feb 24, 12 Russell home 39 - 35 (W) no 63rd District Championship Feb 28, 12 West Carter at Johnson Arena, Morehead State 38 - 45 (L) no 16th Region

Raceland will be filling their open position with a internal option.:confused: They currently have no open teaching jobs to offer anyone. Biggs @ Ashland has pretty much explored his options each year but has chosen to stay, so far.

Ashland was robbed, of an attempt to go into overtime. Pathetic no call on the shot. No excuse for it. Also, Congrats to Rowan Co are deserved. :thumb: They played well and it certainly wasn't their fault the ref closed his eyes.

Almost like in 2007 when Russell was 27-4 and Jon Vanhoose went down in Districts with a knee injury. The Devils ended up losing to Elliott Co in the Region, a team they had handled twice during the regular season. Also in 2005 when Derek Sloane separated his shoulder in the first quarter of the Region Final against Rowan Co. If not for injuries, it could have been three in a row for the Devils. And now, Skaggs this year. Truly a snake bitten team since 2005.:idunno:

Exactly what I told my buddies I was with. Bush had the ball at mid-court with 7 seconds left, trailing by three and Flemming didn't foul him. :eek:Unbelievable! :idunno:That type of decision will get you beat more times than not. I thought both teams played sloppy and poorly. The officials didn't do any better. Horrible calls on both ends of the floor. Survive and advance. It was real ugly but it counted. I look for the Tomcats to dismantle East on Friday.

Like I said before the season started, it comes down to Ashland or Rowan Co.:walk:

:dancingpa:eek::eyeonyou::banana::thumb:Congrats to coach Kidwell and the Devils!

Don't get me wrong Doc, I like Coach Kidwell and we are friends. I, in no way, was taking a shot at him in this thread. I was only trying to point out that you shouldn't get too excited about this years team, based on the schedule played. The coach didn't make the schedule. Russell has always, up until the last couple of years played a much tougher schedule. But you also have to admit that the 16th overall has been much worse than usual the last two years.

:clap:I said I doubted they could put things together but felt they had the kids to improve and have a slim shot by years end, depending on coaching. Lol It looks like slim to none as the jury is now in on this years coaching staff. It is Ashland or Rowan, period.:popcorn:

I mean by being tall and athletic but lacking in being taught fundamentals, being in shape along with poor coaching. So yes, we can certainly agree on that. Length doesn't equate to basketball savvy or skill. It doesn't when they're not taught or coached properly.

Well Mr. Spindoc, with the same respect to you, I'll have to say I was right. Disagree if you must, but Greenup has had some very athletic kids who have just not been taught how to play. The Stephenson kid this year should be one of the very best in this region and may still prove to be a solid player before season's end. I'll withhold judgement on this year's coaching until then. As far as why Russell is playing Rose Hill now, as Dickie V would say, It's Cupcake City Baby.

Saying it certainly doesn't make him correct. lol As long as those two are in opposite brackets, the writing is on the wall for everyone else. I'll gladly eat crow if I'm wrong but I feel 99.99% sure this year. I called this one before the season started. Greenup Co is the only team that has the athletic ability to beat both of those teams and for other reasons, it ain't happening.

If Ashland and Rowan would end up on the same side of the bracket, definitely the draw plays a huge part in getting someone else involved. But, there is not a team in the 16th that can beat them both, if they draw opposite each other.

Two good teams last year and the same this year. Sorry to disagree Doc, but players quit or leave at Russell and the others all the time. (I.E. Josh Gross, Kasey Clark and Sizemore) You play with what you got. And no one comes out of the 16th this year but Ashland or Rowan. If West gets a draw with those two in the same bracket, they have a chance but they can't beat both. Russell should win their district easily unless Greenup can finally put it together. They have the athletes to win the region this year but I don't believe it will happen. If Greenup could get the same draw I mentioned for West, they'd have a shot though.

My point is that Russell and West Carter's schedules are padded with cupcakes, even beyond the games they must play. The 16th region being exceptionally weak has only aided the cause. West Carter has an unbelievably soft schedule, even compared to Russell's. Ashland and Rowan Co are the only two teams with a shot to win the region at this point and they're not that good this year.

"I agree the one other game they won't win is Chesapeake, OH they are very good beat Ironton at Ironton and East by 30+ on a neutral floor." Thanks, I have not seen them this year or checked on Chesapeake yet.