nkywildcat68

Brossart 38, Mason 33 2:00 left in third

2009

Haha, good job on finding those 25 wins. :lol: Seriously, I would say that them playing the young guards so many minutes + injuries (I know the one senior guard, Kelly, missed a lot of time, and I heard that Jordan Shelton has had feet problems?) have impeded that win total a bit. But, I am sure Coach Duvall and the Rebels agree with your basic premise that they still should have more than 15 wins this year...we'll see if they can add onto that win total Thursday. And I know that other teams (like Gallatin) had young guards, too....but perhaps they went into the year expecting that, and OC didnt? I dont know. I wasnt trying to make excuses for them, just that there may be a reason they fell a couple of games short of the total # of wins. Coach Jones has GC playing well and contending for All A and district crowns most years whether they are young teams or veteran teams.

They are 15-10 now. So you think they should be 25-0? Give me Simon Kenton in a close one. Owen started a freshman and soph at the guards in the 31st final....kind of tough to win with such youth on the perimeter. Should be a good one, though....Owen is more than capable of winning this game.

Final from Warsaw.

Trimble County has an older gym that I believe was built at their present middle school (?) thats bigger than the current HS gym, but its not comparable to the Mason Co Fieldhouse, from a seating standpoint.

2004 38th District Bracken Co 31, Brossart 30

16-0 Bracken run..they now lead 23-14 with 5:00 left in the half.

Early 60s. Hosted its first regional tournament in 1963.

I think that was NewCath's only loss to a Kentucky opponent heading into the state tournament. They were in the GCL in those days, so they had lost games to Ohio teams, but not to any Ky teams until the first round of the Sweet 16. Not sure of the score of the Male-Bracken Co game, but I was like 6 at the time, so memory has faded. I would assume Male won big, though.

What does the new gym seat? If I recall correctly, the old gym had around 2K seats. Any of you older Bracken folks remember when BC played Louisville Male in December of 1974 in Brooksville? Yes, THAT Louisville Male that had Darrell Griffith and Bobby Turner.

Wow, that brings back some memories. Spent many a night during basketball season watching the BCHS teams, and many afterschool and weekends playing on that court. The sign with the famous Grantland Rice quote (cant remember it all), did they move that to the new gym?

No, you didnt "get this straight", obviously. Where did I say that the parents start the feeder program and oversee it? I just pointed out that its just as important for there to be a strong community effort backing these kids as there is to have a strong adminstrative team (AD, coaches, etc) in place at the high school level. Of course they should be accountable for the results of their programs....but it could be a no win situation before these kids get to HS. I dont know, I was posing a few thoughts on how things could be breaking down.

As a former resident/student in my younger years of Bracken Co, the later part of this thread has certainly been interesting. So, allow me to chime in. For starters, Bracken played an early middle school season even as far back as the 70s when I lived there and my folks were working in the school system...so its hard to blame their problems on just that. Its all about the feeder programs when you are talking about a Class A school like BC. It has to be organized, instructional, yet competitive. You have to have a community involved, and not involved as griping parents or critical anoymous internet message board posters. They have to be involved by donating time, supporting the kids' schedules, and having talented coaches in the system. And, by that, I am not talking about the high school head coaches. I am talking about parents, people in the community who have an athletic background. Is this happening presently in Bracken County? There used to be. Based on BGP, though, I believe the griping parents/anonymous message board poster thing is very prevelant in Bracken. Junior high w/l records are useless when trying to project at the varsity level....and that goes for coaches, too. I've saw a middle school team in another district go undefeated, and then win only 10 games when that same group were seniors in HS. How many 8th grade starters on that undefeated team ended up starting for their same respective varsity team four years later? Try ONE. How many of those starters were even on that varsity team? That same ONE. Also, I was a part of a 8th grade middle school team that went 3-15 (I was a seventh grader), and when those 8th graders played varsity ball as seniors, they were like 17-10 and went to their regional tournament. Why was one somewhat successful, and the other wasnt? Because the first example played kids who were never going to be eligible in HS, they had been held back/failed a grade in elementary school, so they were more mature than their opponents in middle school. By the time they were in HS, they were no longer bigger or more mature physically. Most of the kids got discouraged and quit the sport. As for the school that went from 3-15 to a regional tourney berth, those kids played year round. The community was more close knit when it came to their athletic programs, they stayed the course, they played kids who they knew were going to be around as seniors. Plus, a couple of kids in my class were talented enough to help out, and you had a nice little team. Someone brought up an intersting point earlier about kids not getting experience during the middle school years. BCHS had pretty competitive teams most years in the 70s, and in the 80s. In fact, if they had the All A Classic in those days, Bracken would have battled the Maysvilles/Parises/etc for the All A crown most seasons. Sure, they had some rough years, but schools with 3-400 kids are going to experience that. Now, they struggle. I dont know what the current setup is (other than you all talking about the BCMS team playing in this Ohio River Conference), but back in those days, the middle school feeder programs were at the respective elementary schools in Brooksville (Taylor), Western Hills, and Germantown. They mostly coached by native Bracken Countians, former BCHS players who came back to teach. The current superintendent was one. By the time they reached their freshman year, they had 15-20 kids who had extensive playing time at the middle school level, and at a decently high level (they played teams from Maysville/Mason/Pendleton/etc). How many kids reach their freshman year at BCHS playing a lot the previous two years in middle school? I take it there arent many since there is only one school. Is there an AAU program in Bracken Co? Do they play year around? I think those are the questions that need to be addressed rather than the tired old "the admin sucks, the AD doesnt know what she is doing, blah blah blah". That may be why the coaches dont stick around, they know that they are not going to have many varsity ready players coming up through the system.

No doubt....and I am not sure what the number was for Mason and Clark fans, but they brought big groups last night. Reason I was asking was because I am sure there were a lot of local, neutral fans who just enjoy basketball who came out to the game because they were more familiar with Holmes and Boone Co schools, or may have had some connection with the schools in the past, and not so much GRC and Mason? I have indirect connections (where I atended school, parents taught, family attended, etc) probably with 8 schools spread out over the 8th, 9th, and 10th regions, so I would have been interested in all three of those....but I might not have been so interested in another region? Just a theory.

If the camera adds 10-15 lbs, then it also moves back receding hairlines by about 2 inches. Because I dont recognize the guy sitting in my seat of the shots I am in. :lol:

Then, if you believe in that stuff, wouldnt it go both ways? I am sure GRC heard about how they won on a phantom foul in Winchester last month. I figure they had that extra something to prove, too, whether it was a regular season game or not. No offense, but I just dont buy all this "extra motivation" stuff once the ball is tipped off, except amongst the fans in the stands and, in this day and age, on message boards like this. Once the ball is tipped off, they both are wanting to advance to Rupp.

You think they tried harder and wanted to win more at Montgomery and NKU than they would have at the Fieldhouse?

Nothing against GRC and Mason, who both ALWAYS have had fantastic crowds in all the years I have attended 10th region tournaments and were fantastic again last night, but does anyone think the 10th title game atmosphere would have been better if one of the 37th district teams, or even Pendleton Co, would have been playing last night?

Oldham, led by Jeff Griffin, won the 1985 8th region title, upsetting a Top 5 Scott Co team in the finals ...Anderson (with Gritton) lost to Scott on a Frank Persley buzzer beater in the semifinals

Based on the way the teams have played so far in the regional, you would think Mason. So, I'll take Clark to rise to the occasion tonight.

audio is cutting out..both teams emptying their bench..Anderson up 44-27 I think

Anderson 43 Owen 27 1:44 4 Q

Anderson 42 Owen 28 under 2 to go in the 4th (I think)

Anderson 38 Owen 25 3:20 4 Q