Not the same. There has not been a dramtic difference in athletic ability and speed as there was from the 50's and 60's to the 80's and 90's. I would say on the most part the 80's and today players are similar in that stance. Has not been a dramatic difference. But if your going to dare tell me the speed of the game is not so much different over the last 40 years I'm shocked.

 

Sure the speed of the game is different. And more players can dunk now. But other aspects of the game have suffered. Todays players do not shoot as well because of the three point line obsession and defensive technique is lacking because of the reliance on athletic ability.

There is huge differences in the game in the last 25 years. The game is quicker. Presses are more intense going from traditional 2-2-1 to 1-2-1-1 and run and jump. The three point shot made the game vastly different. The officiating itself is so vastly different it has changed the game dramatically. The jump ball rule has changed in the last 25 years. Great players from the 60's and 70's would still be competitive today but their impact on the game would be greatly changed. Shooters will always be shooters. However, the physical play of today would take away alot of the flash of yester year simply because fouls are not called when you grab and hold today. It is a wrestling match today, not basketball. Some players could adapt but many players would be average. Coaching today as a whole is better than it was 25 years also. There are a greater number of good coaches, not coaches between jobs.

My 9th region list:

 

G-Dickey Beal/Holmes

G-Scott Draud/Highlands

G-Joe Harney/Holy Cross

F-Jack Jennings/Holmes

F-Derek Smith/Highlands

 

Subs

G-Ronny Dawn/NewCath

G-Chris Hayes/Holmes

F-Andre McClendon/Holy Cross

F-Justin Doelmann/Ryle

F-Ross Neltner/Highlands

 

Simon Kenton is not in the 9th region or Troy McKinley would have made it.

 

I think you need to include Simon Kenton in as the Northern KY top 25 - regardless of the thread topic. I would still not out McKinley in there.

 

1st 5

 

Dicky Beal - Holmes

Scott Draud - Highlands

Ronny Dawn - NCC

Jack Jennings - Holmes

Justin Doelmann - Ryle

 

2nd 5

 

Joe Harney - Holy Cross

Jeff Krohman - Simon Kenton

Chris Hayes - Holmes

Ross Neltner - Highlands

Derek Smith - Highlands

I think you need to include Simon Kenton in as the Northern KY top 25 - regardless of the thread topic. I would still not out McKinley in there.

 

1st 5

 

Dicky Beal - Holmes

Scott Draud - Highlands

Ronny Dawn - NCC

Jack Jennings - Holmes

Justin Doelmann - Ryle

 

2nd 5

 

Joe Harney - Holy Cross

Jeff Krohman - Simon Kenton

Chris Hayes - Holmes

Ross Neltner - Highlands

Derek Smith - Highlands

 

I will never understand anyone who puts Dawn ahead of Harney.

Chris Lofton Mason Co.

Jared Carter Scott Co.

I will never understand anyone who puts Dawn ahead of Harney.

 

 

Both were very good players with different skills. I think the McKinley kid that went to UofL was a better player than Krohman.

I guess I need to bone up on my HC b-ball history.

 

Here's what I remember about HC and region tourney: In the 70s, they had Mike Turkey Jones (I think that was his name) and the long sleeve shirts when they played in the 9th at Conner. In 93, they lost to my alma mater at the buzzer in the region finals.

 

Turkey Jones!!!!! .................Now that's a name out of the past. I remember going to play against Covington Holy Cross with Turkey in 1975. I dont know what kind of record that CHC had that year, but they had a very good team and I remember Turkey as being a great player. I would guess that we were one of the very few teams to leave their home floor with a W that year. We felt very fortunate.

The entire 81 Simon Kenton team.

I'd have to say the '81 North Hardin team. Three of its starters went Division I: James Jeter (UL); Robbie Valentine (UL); Brett Burrow, 6'11 center (Vanderbilt); they were No. 1 in the state and jockeyed with Bryan Station the next year for the #1 spot; they went 37-3 and only lost the state championship title in '82 by a freak, Hail Mary shot by Laurel County with no time on the clock.

Wasn't it Paul Andrews that made that shot? He then went on to a less-than-stellar career with UK.

Both were very good players with different skills. I think the McKinley kid that went to UofL was a better player than Krohman.

 

J. Mckinley could have been phenomenal if he wanted to but J. Krohman left as the schools all time leading scorer, that has to count for something. Two very good players. No way Dawn should be ahead of Harney.

Wasn't it Paul Andrews that made that shot? He then went on to a less-than-stellar career with UK.

 

Yes, proud to say I attended and it was surreal.

how about Talbert Turner from Pendleton?

Here are some of the better recent players from the 10th that stood out to me. I just picked one player from each team. If I couldn't think of any recent ones, then I went back in time a bit, but anyway here we go:

 

Bishop Brossart: Nathan Seiter: Put the team on his back in 2000, taking them all the way to the Elite Eight.

Campbell County: Kevin Reinhardt: Played at Rupp as a junior, athletic 6'4'' warrior who now plays at NKU.

Silver Grove: Chad McCarter: Led the Big Trains to a 17-0 record to start off the 2000-2001 season.

Pendleton County: Talbert Turner: Scored over 3,000 points without a three point line during the early 80's. Also led PC to a regional final in 84.

Harrison County: Rob Ogden: Talented big man who led the Breds to back to back regional titles in 96 and 97.

Nicholas County: Daniel Brown: Good shooter, helped Nicholas to banner seasons.

MMI: Tom Boerwinkle: Played college ball at UT, then played 12 seasons for the Bulls.

Deming: Stephen Staggs: Spunky guard who could fill it up from anywhere for the black devils during the early 90's.

Mason County: Chris Lofton: Mason County's all time leading scorer, 3 regional titles, 1 state title, 1 state runner-up, 2004 Mr. Basketball, a Ky HS all-time great.

Augusta: Brian Kirk: Talented shooter who was hard to guard. Panthers' all-time leading scorer, now plays at Union.

Bracken County: Adam Reed: Led the Polar Bears to the All "A" state in 1999.

St. Patrick: Jordan Owens: Competitive guard who led the Saints to a rivalry with Mason County for a short while. Played collegiately at Georgetown College.

Montgomery County: Billy Ray Fawns: 6'8", tough physical, good shooter, 1995 10th region champions.

Bourbon County: Preston LeMaster: Shot the lights out for the Colonels for four years. Led the state in scoring, senior now at UK.

Paris: Alvin Sims: Athletic, strong player for the Hounds who went on to play for Louisville.

Clark County: Wes Burtner: 6'6'', big body who could stroke the three. Led the Cards to winning seasons during the mid 90's.

 

No Longer in the Tenth:

Fleming County: Josh Graham: Leading scorer and rebounder for the back to back regional champion panthers.

Tollesboro: Chris Harrison: Great shooter who averaged just under 40 points per game as a senior. Played at UK.

Estill County: Kyle Christopher: Good floor leader and player for the Engineers.

Maysville: Pat Moore: Talented player and a Maysville legend who will be remembered for a long time.

Basketball is basketball.

 

Today's players aren't any better than players from years ago, just different.

 

I know many people of the older age and almost everyone of them would disagree with you. Players today are so much more developed. So much bigger and quicker. The game has changed and the players has also.

I know many people of the older age and almost everyone of them would disagree with you. Players today are so much more developed. So much bigger and quicker. The game has changed and the players has also.

Not so, my friend.

 

What has changed is the lack of knowledge of fundamentals. Or maybe it's just the lack of someone having the knowing to teach them.