Obama DOJ going after Gibson Guitars?

[FarBeyondDriven]

Thought some of you would find this interesting. Link:http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904787404576530520471223268.html

Edited August 26, 2011 by FarBeyondDriven

[Voice of Reason]

In a related headline, Obama ordered facility managers to put out mousetraps in the Rose Garden. This was item 4 on the agenda in this morning's Cabinet meeting. There was a great deal of debate before Obama ordered the mousetraps be placed. When asked about the issue, President Obama stated , "It is my job to scrutinize every detail by every worker in this government and personally approve or disapprove."

[FarBeyondDriven]

In a related headline, Obama ordered facility managers to put out mousetraps in the Rose Garden. This was item 4 on the agenda in this morning's Cabinet meeting. There was a great deal of debate before Obama ordered the mousetraps be placed. When asked about the issue, President Obama stated , "It is my job to scrutinize every detail by every worker in this government and personally approve or disapprove."

Thank you for illustrating my point of absurdity by being absurd.

[acemona]

Obama ordered the DOJ to do this? Wow, he is a busy man. Or do you think they did it by themselves, and on a tip from someone, AND if they are using illegally harvested wood, should the DOJ just let 'em?

[FarBeyondDriven]

Obama ordered the DOJ to do this? Wow, he is a busy man. Or do you think they did it by themselves, and on a tip from someone, AND if they are using illegally harvested wood, should the DOJ just let 'em?

It is HIS DOJ, correct? Not saying he ordered it, but it is his DOJ. Not surprised that you don't see the absurdity in this. Imagine if the the DOJ/Obama/Fed had this much enthusiasm about illegal immigration?

[acemona]

It is HIS DOJ, correct? Not saying he ordered it, but it is his DOJ. Not surprised that you don't see the absurdity in this. Imagine if the the DOJ/Obama/Fed had this much enthusiasm about illegal immigration?

 

You do know that Obama's administration is deporting way more people than Bush ever did.

[PurplePride92]

You do know that Obama's administration is deporting way more people than Bush ever did.

 

Looks like this thread is done now.....

 

All I hear is *crickets*

[cammando]

You do know that Obama's administration is deporting way more people than Bush ever did.

Thousands more criminals are flooding the border now that Obama is president..

[acemona]

Thousands more criminals are flooding the border now that Obama is president..

 

Simply not true. More border patrol than Bush ever had. Your perception is clouded by your dislike of the President.

[Run To State]

Simply not true. More border patrol than Bush ever had. Your perception is clouded by your dislike of the President.

Or could rose colored glasses be doing just the opposite for you? It wold seem Texas is in disagreement with you and in agreement with commando. Deporting more does little good when Re-entry Cases Surge Under Obama:

 

Texans are hammering away at Barack Obama for failing to secure our borders and for refusing to put forward a comprehensive immigration-reform plan, but the number of federal prosecutions for "illegal re-entry" has quietly skyrocketed under his administration.

 

U.S. Department of Justice data obtained from the Transactional Records Access Clearing House shows that prosecutions for attempting to enter the country after having “been denied admission, excluded, deported, or removed” are on pace to surpass 37,100 for the year, an increase of more than 1,200 from 2010. If the trend continues, the Obama administration will have prosecuted more illegal immigrants for illegal re-entry in his first term than George W. Bush’s administration did in his two terms combined. From 2001 to 2008, 111,920 aliens were prosecuted for the crime — 42,465 in Bush’s first term and 69,455 in his second, an annual average of about 10,600 and 17,360, respectively. Obama's administration is averaging about 34,355 annually and is on pace to surpass 103,000 in his first three years.

 

TRAC estimates that almost half all criminal immigration cases prosecuted and nearly a quarter of all criminal prosecutions of any kind involve charges of illegal reentry, which is a federal felony. TRAC estimates the average sentence for an immigrant convicted of the offense to be about 14 months.

 

Illegal re-entry recently surpassed illegal entry, the first-time offense for entering the country without permission, as the leading criminal immigration charge. Prosecution for illegal entry, a federal petty misdemeanor, has declined since 2009. That year there were about 54,200 prosecutions, followed by about 43,700 in 2010. If the pace seen during the first six months of 2011 continues, this year’s total may be less than 35,000. Despite the decline, however, the total prosecutions for illegal entry under Obama, projected to be about 132,400 by year’s end, would surpass the Bush administration’s eight-year total of 122,385. The numbers reflect an annual average of 7,154 and 23,442 during Bush’s first and second terms, respectively.

[spindoc]

There you go again with facts. Count on RTS to stick those pesky things out there.

[doomer]

http://trac.syr.edu/immigration/reports/227/

 

OK...nothing to do with Gibson or illegal harvesting of wood, but good link to report discussing trend of prosecutions for illegal entry. The steep increase occurred in 2008 and has continued at a comparative level since. What I haven't found yet, is what the trigger was for this in 2008...but probably for another thread.

[jvdfc]

There you go again with facts. Count on RTS to stick those pesky things out there.

:thumb: He does do that well.

[cammando]

Simply not true. More border patrol than Bush ever had. Your perception is clouded by your dislike of the President.

Wrong, as usual..

[acemona]

Or could rose colored glasses be doing just the opposite for you? It wold seem Texas is in disagreement with you and in agreement with commando. Deporting more does little good when Re-entry Cases Surge Under Obama:

 

Texans are hammering away at Barack Obama for failing to secure our borders and for refusing to put forward a comprehensive immigration-reform plan, but the number of federal prosecutions for "illegal re-entry" has quietly skyrocketed under his administration.

U.S. Department of Justice data obtained from the Transactional Records Access Clearing House shows that prosecutions for attempting to enter the country after having “been denied admission, excluded, deported, or removed” are on pace to surpass 37,100 for the year, an increase of more than 1,200 from 2010. If the trend continues, the Obama administration will have prosecuted more illegal immigrants for illegal re-entry in his first term than George W. Bush’s administration did in his two terms combined. From 2001 to 2008, 111,920 aliens were prosecuted for the crime — 42,465 in Bush’s first term and 69,455 in his second, an annual average of about 10,600 and 17,360, respectively. Obama's administration is averaging about 34,355 annually and is on pace to surpass 103,000 in his first three years.

TRAC estimates that almost half all criminal immigration cases prosecuted and nearly a quarter of all criminal prosecutions of any kind involve charges of illegal reentry, which is a federal felony. TRAC estimates the average sentence for an immigrant convicted of the offense to be about 14 months.

 

Illegal re-entry recently surpassed illegal entry, the first-time offense for entering the country without permission, as the leading criminal immigration charge. Prosecution for illegal entry, a federal petty misdemeanor, has declined since 2009. That year there were about 54,200 prosecutions, followed by about 43,700 in 2010. If the pace seen during the first six months of 2011 continues, this year’s total may be less than 35,000. Despite the decline, however, the total prosecutions for illegal entry under Obama, projected to be about 132,400 by year’s end, would surpass the Bush administration’s eight-year total of 122,385. The numbers reflect an annual average of 7,154 and 23,442 during Bush’s first and second terms, respectively.

 

I know those pesky facts are exactly what I said they were, even in this post from RTS. Obama has kicked so many people out that those trying to get BACK in have surpassed those coming for the first time. How does this dispute what I said about him increasing border security. He is going to deport more in his one term than Bush did in two. Again, you guys fell all over yourself congratulating RTS when all he did was re-inforce what I said. Do you read these things or not?