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Obama DOJ going after Gibson Guitars?

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"...announced a deal..."

 

With the heavy boot of the EPA on your throat - you will take the deal.

 

Why is the EPA in the import law business? .... Or in the drone spying business or....

"...announced a deal..."

 

With the heavy boot of the EPA on your throat - you will take the deal.

 

Why is the EPA in the import law business? .... Or in the drone spying business or....

 

Why do we monitor the products that are brought into our country?

Why do we monitor the products that are brought into our country?

 

It looks like the Lacy Act was the law that was broken.

 

Lacey Act of 1900 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

The original Act was therefore directed at the preservation of game and wild birds, making it a federal crime to poach game in one state with the purpose of selling the bounty in another.

 

So it was originally designed to protect animals and birds INSIDE the US.

 

From the article you posted.

 

Gruhn said the resolution of the Gibson case doesn't ease his concerns about the Lacey Act, which initially halted the trade in endangered wildlife goods, like ivory, but in 2008 added rare woods to the import ban.

 

"The problem is that virtually every instrument prior to 1970 contains Brazilian rosewood," he said. "Even on a Gibson LGO, which was their cheapest student guitar."

 

 

I wonder if Brazilian bamboo is considered rare or exotic? We considered it for flooring in a new house in 2006. From reading the text. It looks had we done that we may be in violation of the law since it appears there is no grandfather clause.

 

What would we expect? The EPA considers CO2 - the gas we all exhale on every breath - a regulated material. They literally regulate the air we exhaul.

It looks like the Lacy Act was the law that was broken.

 

Lacey Act of 1900 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

 

 

So it was originally designed to protect animals and birds INSIDE the US.

 

From the article you posted.

 

 

 

I wonder if Brazilian bamboo is considered rare or exotic? We considered it for flooring in a new house in 2006. From reading the text. It looks had we done that we may be in violation of the law since it appears there is no grandfather clause.

 

What would we expect? The EPA considers CO2 - the gas we all exhale on every breath - a regulated material. They literally regulate the air we exhale.

 

There are many, many laws that are expanded over time. That's nothing new. Why do you have a problem trying to protect the environment?

 

To answer your question about bamboo - no, it's not rare or exotic. It's pretty common knowledge that bamboo is VERY fast growing. As a very fast growing natural building material, it is considered a highly usable renewable resource. It would clearly not have been in violation of the law. As someone who works in construction and deals daily with LEED certification, recycled materials, and FSC (Forest Stewardship Council) certified wood products, I can tell you that it's incredibly easy to come by responsibly harvested wood products. You virtually have to seek out wood that isn't FSC certified any more. Gibson was taking some truly dirty steps to forego the process and make their prophet.

 

You are correct. The EPA does regulate CO2 emissions. As the number-one cause of greenhouse effect, monitoring CO2 is certainly a responsible measure to take. Too much of anything is not a good thing. Sewage occurs naturally. Should the EPA not be monitoring what is done with sewage? Or would you rather they just let anybody dump it wherever they damn well please seeing as it's something that you naturally excrete?

There are many, many laws that are expanded over time. That's nothing new. Why do you have a problem trying to protect the environment?

 

To answer your question about bamboo - no, it's not rare or exotic. It's pretty common knowledge that bamboo is VERY fast growing. As a very fast growing natural building material, it is considered a highly usable renewable resource. It would clearly not have been in violation of the law. As someone who works in construction and deals daily with LEED certification, recycled materials, and FSC (Forest Stewardship Council) certified wood products, I can tell you that it's incredibly easy to come by responsibly harvested wood products. You virtually have to seek out wood that isn't FSC certified any more. Gibson was taking some truly dirty steps to forego the process and make their prophet.

 

You are correct. The EPA does regulate CO2 emissions. As the number-one cause of greenhouse effect, monitoring CO2 is certainly a responsible measure to take. Too much of anything is not a good thing. Sewage occurs naturally. Should the EPA not be monitoring what is done with sewage? Or would you rather they just let anybody dump it wherever they damn well please seeing as it's something that you naturally excrete?

 

Unless there were lots of man-made CO2 generators in the past CO2 is likely an effect and not a cause. The Vostok ice samples show elevated CO2 during all previous warm periods of history going back 400,000 years.

 

The issue is that if you make enough laws everyone eventually becomes a criminal. A 1900 law that was designed to protect domestic wildlife should not morph into a monstrosity that makes what was legal for decades illegal.

Unless there were lots of man-made CO2 generators in the past CO2 is likely an effect and not a cause. The Vostok ice samples show elevated CO2 during all previous warm periods of history going back 400,000 years.

 

The issue is that if you make enough laws everyone eventually becomes a criminal. A 1900 law that was designed to protect domestic wildlife should not morph into a monstrosity that makes what was legal for decades illegal.

 

So you have a problem with people outlawing things that were once legal?

So you have a problem with people outlawing things that were once legal?

 

Somewhat. The more things are illegal the more likely they are to be technically broken. Laws should be straight forward and as simple as possible. With a 108 year law being changed and manipulated and greatly expanded it seems its original intent is likely lost.

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