What do you mean by this?

 

BGP has a poster from Pendleton county LBBC.

BGP has a poster from Pendleton county LBBC.

 

 

There are several posters from Pendleton County, but LBBC is NOT the person in question.

 

Also, please be mindful of BGP's Rule 5:

 

No comments, whatsoever, about any member's true identity in any public forum on BGP. This includes any question, hint (whether true or not), attempt to divulge, or attempt to determine a user's identity posted in any BGP forum.

There are several posters from Pendleton County, but LBBC is NOT the person in question.

 

Also, please be mindful of BGP's Rule 5:

 

No comments, whatsoever, about any member's true identity in any public forum on BGP. This includes any question, hint (whether true or not), attempt to divulge, or attempt to determine a user's identity posted in any BGP forum.

 

I don't think I broke this rule, but if I did, I do apologize...

The gentleman involved has never coached as far as I know.

In talking to several parents, this is what I was told.

He used poor judgement in what he did, but the kid involved is a jerk.

PCMS has been testing this week. The teacher who was suspended went into a classroom to give the classroom teacher a chance to go to the restroom.

The kid involved flipped off the teacher. As the article said "a mental mistake" (poor judgement) was made.

 

The article sounded like the teacher is suspended, but they expect him to come back next year. So that makes me think that there was more to it on the student's side, and they are trying to protect the "minor", by not divulging all the details. I am cool with that. Clearly, if there was ever a concern for the student or students' safety, more severe action would be taken right way. The teacher used poor judgement, that is for sure. Growing up, I was the "teacher's kid". I was trying to follow the rules and do the right thing...because all my teachers knew my dad and they were just a hallway walk away from reporting any of my misbehavior. At the same time, often at the dinner table, my dad would describe those situations (without mentioning names) where he was tested beyond belief, trying to keep it all in check, trying to teach the kids that wanted to learn, and still have compassion for the ones that "flipped him off" on a daily basis.

I don't think I broke this rule, but if I did, I do apologize...

 

It is a gray area we don't want to get into. If you have any further comments on the rule you need to send a PM and not post in this thread.

The article sounded like the teacher is suspended, but they expect him to come back next year. So that makes me think that there was more to it on the student's side, and they are trying to protect the "minor", by not divulging all the details. I am cool with that. Clearly, if there was ever a concern for the student or students' safety, more severe action would be taken right way. The teacher used poor judgement, that is for sure. Growing up, I was the "teacher's kid". I was trying to follow the rules and do the right thing...because all my teachers knew my dad and they were just a hallway walk away from reporting any of my misbehavior. At the same time, often at the dinner table, my dad would describe those situations (without mentioning names) where he was tested beyond belief, trying to keep it all in check, trying to teach the kids that wanted to learn, and still have compassion for the ones that "flipped him off" on a daily basis.

 

Add "cussed out", "threatened with bodily harm" and "put on a hit list", and you probably have the typical middle-school teacher's laundry list.

In my day, a kid would have been paddled at school and then, most likely punished again at home for such behavior.

 

I have to agree with hoops5. When something like this happens, the parents and students can say all kinds of things to the media, but the school and teacher involved cannot. This leads to a very unbalanced story.

 

I am not a teacher, but I know a few. Agressive kids, raised by aggressive and/or indifferent parents makes teaching far more dangerous than it was 25 years ago. No, he should not have had what seems to be a pocket knife. However, a pocket knife in possession of a teacher vs one in the possession of a student are two different things IMO.

"He used poor judgement in what he did, but the kid involved is a jerk."

 

I want to start by saying that I am not a teacher, but I have an issue with the above statement. Even if this "kid" is not the student he/she should be, threatening them with bodily harm with a weapon is not the solution. If this child is such a nuissance, why hadn't something been done before this about their behavior. It should of never come to this I agree, but what was done was wrong and IMO punishment was light. I have seen other teachers lose their job and their license for their actions or "mental mistake".

BGP has a poster from Pendleton county LBBC.

 

That's what I thought you meant. Papa is correct in what he said to you in response.

"He used poor judgement in what he did, but the kid involved is a jerk."

 

I want to start by saying that I am not a teacher, but I have an issue with the above statement. Even if this "kid" is not the student he/she should be, threatening them with bodily harm with a weapon is not the solution. If this child is such a nuissance, why hadn't something been done before this about their behavior. It should of never come to this I agree, but what was done was wrong and IMO punishment was light. I have seen other teachers lose their job and their license for their actions or "mental mistake".

Agreed!

 

But, I also don't think this is over, so, stay tuned.

Lets turn the situation around. If this was a student who pulled a knife out in class, what would happen to him/her? Would it be a "mental mistake"?

 

Well the student is 13 and some could argue he doesn't know any better and isn't a mature, experienced adult like the teacher..

"He used poor judgement in what he did, but the kid involved is a jerk."

 

I want to start by saying that I am not a teacher, but I have an issue with the above statement. Even if this "kid" is not the student he/she should be, threatening them with bodily harm with a weapon is not the solution. If this child is such a nuissance, why hadn't something been done before this about their behavior. It should of never come to this I agree, but what was done was wrong and IMO punishment was light. I have seen other teachers lose their job and their license for their actions or "mental mistake".

 

In today's educational world, believe it or not, there are a number of reasons why students are not punished. And the ones I am going to mention may or may not fit this situation. Individual Education Plans that limit what punishment is allowed or makes it difficult to punish certain students, parents who whine and complain constantly, administrators who either do not believe in punishing students or just look the other way or sometimes students who do little things that may not warrant write-ups, but then something happens that causes one to explode. If you have children of your own, you will understand the last one.

The teacher involved regrets his actions, but I know from experience that after putting up with a large number of students, most are good people, mixed with some clowns, turkeys and bad ones, that as the day goes on, it becomes difficult to keep from exploding.

 

It is hard to believe that Campbell County High in the late 1940's and '50's that there was a principle, who was a former Marine boxing champ, who would grab students who were out of line or if 2 boys wanted to fight he would put boxing gloves on them and let them go at it. No one was ever hurt. He put the heaviest gloves on them and after a minute or so the boys arms were worn out and they had no energy to lay on a good punch. Yet, the most amazing thing is that I never had a former student of his to have nothing but praise and admiration for the man. Never once have I had a person to say a single bad thing about this gentleman.

 

It is hard to believe that Campbell County High in the late 1940's and '50's that there was a principle, who was a former Marine boxing champ, who would grab students who were out of line or if 2 boys wanted to fight he would put boxing gloves on them and let them go at it.

 

I had a gym teacher in junior high who did the same thing. I had a few matches. I was too skinny to hold the 16 oz gloves up for very long though.