Did you not read my post, the first sentence of which was ... "I'm not placing the blame on anyone except the shooter" ... ?

 

You and RTS like to read what you want to read.

 

How about reading what I actually say, instead of what you think I mean?

Maybe if you wouldn't give good reason we wouldn't. You like to throw out little innuendos from time to time mixed in with your thoughts. People can read into them rather easily. In the mean time, tell us, who were you alluding to that will have hell to pay?

I really hope the guy is just imbalanced ... I would hate to think that some of the inflammatory rhetoric had anything to do it, and there would hell to pay if it was.

 

If the guy isn't imbalanced does that mean he is any less responsible for his actions? And before you ask I am not saying that's what you said. I am asking a question. If he blames his actions on something someone said who will pay?

 

The fact is the only person to blame here is the nut job that pulled the trigger.

Both the Communist Manifesto but also Mein Kampf . Not only is he a looney but an eclectic one .

Profiles of the victims in Arizona shooting

Last updated Monday, January 10, 2011 - 9:04am

http://www.standard.net/topics/gabrielle-giffords/2011/01/10/profiles-victims-arizona-shooting#

 

Thank you for all your posts focusing on what's important-the victims. They aren't getting the attention the shooter and the media talking heads are.

Big take away from this is that the rhetoric needs to be evaluated. To 99% of it's of no significance. Sadly, it's the 1% that we need to be conscious of.

Very sad.

Since this gunman is a purported pot smoker, is it possible he crossed over into California and used a fake doctor's note to buy some so called medical pot?

Does that mean laws must be passed to tighten up control on the sale medical pot in CA, so it is does not cross over the state line into a state where the sale of pot is more resteictive?

Since this gunman is a purported pot smoker, is it possible he crossed over into California and used a fake doctor's note to buy some so called medical pot?

Does that mean laws must be passed to tighten up control on the sale medical pot in CA, so it is does not cross over the state line into a state where the sale of pot is more resteictive?

 

I've never seen an angry pothead.

Have people no shame?

 

Blaming Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh or any other talking head for this nut's actions with no evidence he ever even listened to them is irresponsible. Trying to affix blame without all the facts is absurd and reckless.

 

If this kook was moved by political motives, why not stop at shooting the representative? Why shoot innocent children and helpless seniors too?

 

This is a sad and reprehensible event committed by a mentally unstable individual in sore need of professional attention. Rushing to attach it to words or pictures by one's political opposition in an attempt to vilify and silence them is also reprehensible.

 

By this reasoning:

 

• J.D. Salinger who wrote "The Catcher in the Rye" is responsible for Mark David Chapman killing John Lennon.
  
• Jody Foster is apparently responsible for John Hinckley Jr. shooting President Reagan.
  
• Lockheed Martin is at fault for building the fighter jets Bobby Kennedy pledged to send to Israel if elected president that led Sirhan Sirhan to shoot him.
  
• The Beatles and their White Album are responsible for inspiring Charles Manson to order the killings of Sharon Tate and others to trigger Manson's apocalyptic vision of Helter Skelter.
  
• Pornography is to be blamed for Ted Bundy killing over 30 young women.
  

 

I could go on... there are many other examples. The point is, every kook has an excuse. There is no valid motive to go out and take innocent lives. Our media's rush to blame political dialogue and debate for this idiot's actions is the height of absurdity and hypocrisy.

"If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun!"

Barack Obama at a Philadelphia fundraiser in 2008.

 

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/06/14/obama-if-they-bring-a-knife-to-the-fight-we-bring-a-gun/

 

Jared Lee Loughner was a registered independent, that didn't vote in the 2010 election. He was dismissed from college for displaying frightening mental issues and scaring classmates. He smoked pot, had a skull topped shrine in his backyard but proclaimed to be an atheist, enjoyed reading Mein Kampf and the Communist Manifesto, obsessed with the Mayan prophecy of a 2012 apocalypse and mind control.

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1345895/Tucson-gunman-Jared-Loughner-appears-court.html#ixzz1AhfmM9sV

 

Sounds like a conservative tea partier to me... (...not.)

 

The perpetual insistence of the liberal media to portray conservatives as misogynistic, homophobic, racist anti-Semites is beyond reason and beneath contempt.

 

How is the attempt to blame Sarah Palin and Rush Limbaugh not equivalently painting the crosshairs on them?

 

How can anyone purport to condemn this and then turn right around and do it themselves?

 

Hypocrites...

Maybe if you wouldn't give good reason we wouldn't. You like to throw out little innuendos from time to time mixed in with your thoughts. People can read into them rather easily. In the mean time, tell us, who were you alluding to that will have hell to pay?

You choose to interpret my comments one way ... you're entitled to do so. It doesn't mean you have a clue as to what I believe.

 

"Hell to pay" ... on either side. I don't know what motivated the guy to do what he did, and it really doesn't matter. He alone is responsible for what he did. But if something did incite him to do it, I would hate to be the person responsible for writing it, whatever it was.

If the guy isn't imbalanced does that mean he is any less responsible for his actions? And before you ask I am not saying that's what you said. I am asking a question. If he blames his actions on something someone said who will pay?

 

The fact is the only person to blame here is the nut job that pulled the trigger.

I agree with you entirely.

ANYONE (including at least one poster in this thread) who tries to afix any blame to anyone other then the nut ball that did the shooting is despicable. Among those killed was a beautiful 9 year old girl and to use her death to score political points or to promote a political agenda is evil.

ANYONE (including at least one poster in this thread) who tries to afix any blame to anyone other then the nut ball that did the shooting is despicable. Among those killed was a beautiful 9 year old girl and to use her death to score political points or to promote a political agenda is evil.

 

I don't think anyone is saying that it's anyone else's fault. We all agree it is the shooter who bears the responsibility for his actions.

 

That aside, what do you think of the tone of politics and political discussion in this day and time?

You choose to interpret my comments one way ... you're entitled to do so. It doesn't mean you have a clue as to what I believe.

 

"Hell to pay" ... on either side. I don't know what motivated the guy to do what he did, and it really doesn't matter. He alone is responsible for what he did. But if something did incite him to do it, I would hate to be the person responsible for writing it, whatever it was.

 

Why? He's mentally unbalanced. Fastbreak gave some nice examples of things that have incited other nut cases to commit acts of violence. Just about any statement at any time can set someone like this off.