So now you think Highlands is drawing football players from out of state ? Tell me Larry , what states are they coming from and what are their names ?

 

First of all, I never said that Highlands was drawing kids from out of state. Funny you think I was even refering to Highlands when I was talking to LN. Since you mentioned it, however, there were a couple of kids out of Cincy earlier this decade who Ruby paid for their tuition, so don't try and act like it has never happened. I was talking about how I don't think out of state kids should be allowed to participate in KHSAA athletics, which was mostly centered toward Louisville privates who have Indiana players every year. BTW, the players that I refered to at the top were around 2001,2002, and 2003 and I don't know their names. Also, I will repeat that the out of state discussion is a rule issue, not a Highlands issue.

Have you ?

 

Highlands has D1 players on a regular basis , but how many of those are tuition paying D1 ?

 

Give us some numbers !

 

Once again, lets not confuse tuition with being from out of the area. However, I will give you some names that jump out at me. Lorenzen, Smith, Hamblin, Mitchell, the kid from Simon Kenton that was Mitchell's age, and for lack of academic prowess to recieve a scholarship Frisk. I am sure there are more, but I obviously don't know the history and situation of every athlete in their program.

Call me crazy, but I think Kentucky High School athletic events should be for students who live in KY. Dont get me wrong, I don't think out of state students should be attending our schools either, but that will never change. So to answer your question, yes, I do think the KDE should ban out of state attendance. However, I don't think it would ever happen.

 

Okay, you're crazy.

 

I know it's just a difference in thinking and there is no right or wrong on this issue, but as long as a kid is enrolled in a Ky school, he/she should in my opinion be able to participate in all extracurricular activities that every other kid in that school can participate in.

 

The schools in Ky border counties will possibly have an advantage if they can attract out of state students, but that's life. If we get so Don Quixote-like focused on chasing windmills in the quest to deliver that mythical "level playing field", we will eventually require every school to have the same number of assistant coaches, spend the same dollars per player, require all facilities to be the same, etc. etc. If a team loses to a team that has some out of state impact players on it in a state game, life will go on.

 

I'm in to state titles as much as any one, but making sure that no school has any advantage over another school as they both attempt to win a state titles should not be what drives our management of high school athletics in Ky.

Okay, you're crazy.

 

I know it's just a difference in thinking and there is no right or wrong on this issue, but as long as a kid is enrolled in a Ky school, he/she should in my opinion be able to participate in all extracurricular activities that every other kid in that school can participate in.

 

The schools in Ky border counties will possibly have an advantage if they can attract out of state students, but that's life. If we get so Don Quixote-like focused on chasing windmills in the quest to deliver that mythical "level playing field", we will eventually require every school to have the same number of assistant coaches, spend the same dollars per player, require all facilities to be the same, etc. etc. If a team loses to a team that has some out of state impact players on it in a state game, life will go on.

 

I'm in to state titles as much as any one, but making sure that no school has any advantage over another school as they both attempt to win a state titles should not be what drives our management of high school athletics in Ky.

I feel where you are coming from. However, I disagree. I think that schooling, and high school athletics, should be a function of a state for people that live in a state. I don't believe that a kid that lives in a surrounding state should be able to go to high school in our state, let alone compete in athletic competition. Its more of an opinion issue than anything. I think Ohio took the correct steps to intercede in what Faust was doing across the river. I would also say Covington Catholic fans feel the same way.

The situation with Flaget was a matter of the changing demographics of the city, that comparison is not even close to valid.

 

Then you're not much of a history buff. That simply illustrates my point. "Thing's" happen. What those "thing's" are is unknown, but my point is based on the reoccuring historical trend that some "thing" will happen that will derail even the best and most stable enterprises. When you have an entire state beginning to root against you, that "thing" often speeds up its arrival. And, like just about every single mega sucess story, those at the top cannot concieve that anything could derail them.

 

An example would be (and don't lose your minds here, this isn't going to happen it's a hypothetical "thing" that could happen): Let's say Betty gets into some huge arguement with the admin. He looses his mind over some issue, resigns and heads down to the KHSAA and informs them that Trinity has in fact been recruiting unfairly and hands them the paperwork to prove it. Instantly, Trinity gets the "Death Penalty" (I've been watching 30-for-30) and is barred from High School athletics for 5 years. Boom, one man, one "thing" and all the tradition, all the hard work and everything that has been built, is crushed with one sweep of a comish.'s hand. These types of "thing's" are not uncommon. In fact their occurance is actually the norm.

 

Now, will this happen to T or X? I doubt it, but I am suggesting that T is more and more finiding themselves to be a grand vessel out in the middle of an ocean that they are kings of. They are the biggest ship, the fastest, the best in every way. BUT they are becoming more and more a ship in an ocean full of smaller, envious ships, who are waiting for them to spring a leak, and when that happens will watch that ship sink and never lend a hand. And if history teaches us anything, it is that no ship is built to last forever.

Then you're not much of a history buff. That simply illustrates my point. "Thing's" happen. What those "thing's" are is unknown, but my point is based on the reoccuring historical trend that some "thing" will happen that will derail even the best and most stable enterprises. When you have an entire state beginning to root against you, that "thing" often speeds up its arrival. And, like just about every single mega sucess story, those at the top cannot concieve that anything could derail them.

 

An example would be (and don't lose your minds here, this isn't going to happen it's a hypothetical "thing" that could happen): Let's say Betty gets into some huge arguement with the admin. He looses his mind over some issue, resigns and heads down to the KHSAA and informs them that Trinity has in fact been recruiting unfairly and hands them the paperwork to prove it. Instantly, Trinity gets the "Death Penalty" (I've been watching 30-for-30) and is barred from High School athletics for 5 years. Boom, one man, one "thing" and all the tradition, all the hard work and everything that has been built, is crushed with one sweep of a comish.'s hand. These types of "thing's" are not uncommon. In fact their occurance is actually the norm.

 

Now, will this happen to T or X? I doubt it, but I am suggesting that T is more and more finiding themselves to be a grand vessel out in the middle of an ocean that they are kings of. They are the biggest ship, the fastest, the best in every way. BUT they are becoming more and more a ship in an ocean full of smaller, envious ships, who are waiting for them to spring a leak, and when that happens will watch that ship sink and never lend a hand. And if history teaches us anything, it is that no ship is built to last forever.

 

I'll be honest. I simply can't understand what you want. Do you want T (especially) and X (as a plus) out of the KHSAA?

What is your compunction to keep coming up with doomsday scenarios?

Why are you compelled to predict that "the end is nigh"?

 

As to PepRock being a history buff, well, he certainly is the biggest history buff that I know. And his simple statement is 100% accurate. It's possible that you may not be aware of the history of Louisville, so I'll forgive you for doubting him.

Then you're not much of a history buff. That simply illustrates my point. "Thing's" happen. What those "thing's" are is unknown, but my point is based on the reoccuring historical trend that some "thing" will happen that will derail even the best and most stable enterprises. When you have an entire state beginning to root against you, that "thing" often speeds up its arrival. And, like just about every single mega sucess story, those at the top cannot concieve that anything could derail them.

 

An example would be (and don't lose your minds here, this isn't going to happen it's a hypothetical "thing" that could happen): Let's say Betty gets into some huge arguement with the admin. He looses his mind over some issue, resigns and heads down to the KHSAA and informs them that Trinity has in fact been recruiting unfairly and hands them the paperwork to prove it. Instantly, Trinity gets the "Death Penalty" (I've been watching 30-for-30) and is barred from High School athletics for 5 years. Boom, one man, one "thing" and all the tradition, all the hard work and everything that has been built, is crushed with one sweep of a comish.'s hand. These types of "thing's" are not uncommon. In fact their occurance is actually the norm.

 

Now, will this happen to T or X? I doubt it, but I am suggesting that T is more and more finiding themselves to be a grand vessel out in the middle of an ocean that they are kings of. They are the biggest ship, the fastest, the best in every way. BUT they are becoming more and more a ship in an ocean full of smaller, envious ships, who are waiting for them to spring a leak, and when that happens will watch that ship sink and never lend a hand. And if history teaches us anything, it is that no ship is built to last forever.

 

On behalf of the entire T community, we appreciate your concern for our program. GO ROCKS!

On behalf of the entire T community, we appreciate your concern for our program. GO ROCKS!

 

Frankly, I feel that these proposed scenarios of doom are perfect case studies to use to prepare ourselves for a high school football Armageddon.

First of all, I never said that Highlands was drawing kids from out of state. Funny you think I was even refering to Highlands when I was talking to LN. Since you mentioned it, however, there were a couple of kids out of Cincy earlier this decade who Ruby paid for their tuition, so don't try and act like it has never happened. I was talking about how I don't think out of state kids should be allowed to participate in KHSAA athletics, which was mostly centered toward Louisville privates who have Indiana players every year. BTW, the players that I refered to at the top were around 2001,2002, and 2003 and I don't know their names. Also, I will repeat that the out of state discussion is a rule issue, not a Highlands issue.

 

Got any proof ? If not , this ain't squat !! :lol:

Then you're not much of a history buff. That simply illustrates my point. "Thing's" happen. What those "thing's" are is unknown, but my point is based on the reoccuring historical trend that some "thing" will happen that will derail even the best and most stable enterprises. When you have an entire state beginning to root against you, that "thing" often speeds up its arrival. And, like just about every single mega sucess story, those at the top cannot concieve that anything could derail them.

 

An example would be (and don't lose your minds here, this isn't going to happen it's a hypothetical "thing" that could happen): Let's say Betty gets into some huge arguement with the admin. He looses his mind over some issue, resigns and heads down to the KHSAA and informs them that Trinity has in fact been recruiting unfairly and hands them the paperwork to prove it. Instantly, Trinity gets the "Death Penalty" (I've been watching 30-for-30) and is barred from High School athletics for 5 years. Boom, one man, one "thing" and all the tradition, all the hard work and everything that has been built, is crushed with one sweep of a comish.'s hand. These types of "thing's" are not uncommon. In fact their occurance is actually the norm.

 

Now, will this happen to T or X? I doubt it, but I am suggesting that T is more and more finiding themselves to be a grand vessel out in the middle of an ocean that they are kings of. They are the biggest ship, the fastest, the best in every way. BUT they are becoming more and more a ship in an ocean full of smaller, envious ships, who are waiting for them to spring a leak, and when that happens will watch that ship sink and never lend a hand. And if history teaches us anything, it is that no ship is built to last forever.

 

While we are on hypotheticals there are any number of things that could happen to Trinity. We could get hit by an asteroid, the dark lord Cthulu could emerge underneath the school and leave the earth in a thousand years of darkness, dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria!

 

 

The Catholic community in Louisville, by and large, migrated outside of the downtown area. Don't insult my intelligence. Flaget didn't close on account of "penalties" placed upon them by administrations/the KHSAA/ or the community. They closed because the Catholic community in town had moved and their enrollment was dwindling. Trinity was lucky to be in the right place to pick up all those who moved east and St.X had already moved off of Broadway. The state rooting against us has nothing to do with the demographics of Louisville.

 

Oh, and calling me not much of a "history buff" is probably one of the most ridiculous things anyone has ever said about me.:lol:

Frankly, I feel that these proposed scenarios of doom are perfect case studies to use to prepare ourselves for a high school football Armageddon.

 

 

I am going to start building my bunker.

First of all, I never said that Highlands was drawing kids from out of state. Funny you think I was even refering to Highlands when I was talking to LN. Since you mentioned it, however, there were a couple of kids out of Cincy earlier this decade who Ruby paid for their tuition, so don't try and act like it has never happened. I was talking about how I don't think out of state kids should be allowed to participate in KHSAA athletics, which was mostly centered toward Louisville privates who have Indiana players every year. BTW, the players that I refered to at the top were around 2001,2002, and 2003 and I don't know their names. Also, I will repeat that the out of state discussion is a rule issue, not a Highlands issue.

 

Could you help me out with a list of this year's Indiana players?

First of all, I never said that Highlands was drawing kids from out of state. Funny you think I was even refering to Highlands when I was talking to LN. Since you mentioned it, however, there were a couple of kids out of Cincy earlier this decade who Ruby paid for their tuition, so don't try and act like it has never happened. I was talking about how I don't think out of state kids should be allowed to participate in KHSAA athletics, which was mostly centered toward Louisville privates who have Indiana players every year. BTW, the players that I refered to at the top were around 2001,2002, and 2003 and I don't know their names. Also, I will repeat that the out of state discussion is a rule issue, not a Highlands issue.

 

Since this is a blatant rules violation, did you turn your extensive documentation over to the KHSAA? Didn't think so. By the way, who is Ruby? Can we get him/her to come down here and help some of our kids with tuition? It doesn't have to be a lot. Maybe just a few thousand to our annual appeal.

Two issues in my mind: Does HHS benefit and is it a problem?

 

Yes.

No.

 

Each school district sets up their own rules and has to live by them - good or bad. Due to Boone's exploding population they've made the decision to not allow students from outside of the Ryle area to attend Ryle. Disadvantage for Ryle as more than a few Boone Countians would send their child to Ryle for various reasons. However, we can't complain about Highlands because of the rules Ryle has imposed upon them by their own school board.

 

Unless someone can show that illegal recruiting takes place then there's no issue with Highlands. Success begets success.

 

Completely agree. Having been born and raised in Ft. Mitchell and attending Beechwood for 13 years(K-12) I have heard the whining before:) I don't know about other schools but Beechwood. You can walk the halls of the ElementaryWing during Football, baseball or basketball season and the young students are sporting their spirit wear and talking about their favorite players. It is what it is and it trancends to their High School years . They want to be successful in thing the copmete in. I'm sure that can be said for a lot of schools but in our area Highlands and Beechwood set the standard of excellence.

Since this is a blatant rules violation, did you turn your extensive documentation over to the KHSAA? Didn't think so. By the way, who is Ruby? Can we get him/her to come down here and help some of our kids with tuition? It doesn't have to be a lot. Maybe just a few thousand to our annual appeal.

 

I suspect he's referencing Jeff Ruby.