Does tiution cover meals, books, materials for classes? Are there fees for playing sports or is this also covered in tuition?

 

No, it doesn't. If you go to Trinity's web site there is a very complete explanation of tuition, fees, financial aid, scholarships and payment plans. As far as I know there are no fees for KHSAA sports. I think there may be some fees for club sports.

I am in no way the expert here but I THINK that if a student wants to go to T or X and have someone else pay the bill for them, then they can attend school but not play KHSAA sports. They may even have to sign an agreement to that effect with the school or KHSAA or something. Again, I could be way off, but I would think that if Bill Gates wanted to pay for 50 kids to go to school he could do so, but then they would be ineligible to play sports.

Since this thread is so off-topic I will try to get it back ON topic by saying that T looked great in the final game. H gave their best and had some impressive moments, but they were simply outplayed. And I doubt that any of the other 11 teams in BG last weekend started fewer seniors than T. T's seniors played great, but the fact is that T will be returning a LOT of players.

This thread has been eye opening. I have personally always argued against a public private split, but now I am seeing many points for it. Especially if student can attend a private institution entirely on need based aid. The work harder and get better point that I have read several times seems to be shrinking under the attendance and draw rules and policies that I have just read about on this thread.

This thread has been eye opening. I have personally always argued against a public private split, but now I am seeing many points for it. Especially if student can attend a private institution entirely on need based aid. The work harder and get better point that I have read several times seems to be shrinking under the attendance and draw rules and policies that I have just read about on this thread.

 

You are misunderstanding the need based aid. A student must pay something, even if they have a need for 100% aid. First, that is the rule. Secondly, there simply isn't enough money to fund 100% need based aid. The endowment serves as many students as possible, and as such isn't even large enough to grant 100% aid, even if needed. Thirdly, the total of merit awards plus need based aid plus work study cannot be greater than 50% of the tuition. Thus, no student at Trinity receives more than 50% of their tuition in aid.

Does tiution cover meals, books, materials for classes? Are there fees for playing sports or is this also covered in tuition?

 

No, tuition covers tuition. Books are extra, meals are extra but there are no extra class fees on top of tuition. There are no fees charged to play sports BUT no tuition money is used to pay for sports either. Sports are paid for by gate receipts and other fund raising. Basic required equipment is paid for by the school but personal equipment (shoes, sweats, gloves etc.) are paid for by the athlete.

This is the first I have ever heard of it, I have asked about it, and no one has fully refuted it. I would have thought this would have been fully refuted the first time someone bought it up in this thread, but it wasn't.

 

Until this discussion I had never heard of anyone sponsoring a student to attend T or X or any other Lou. private school for that matter. I am confident that both programs operate well w/in the guidelines of the KHSAA & I will continue to believe that until evidence is presented that says otherwise. I can't believe that it is so hard for many of you to understand why a young man who happens to be a good athlete would find his way to T for a high quality education & exposure on a high quality football team, same as a student interested in drama would be interested in attending YPAS, or a gifted Math / Science kid would seek out Manual...

I'm just thankful the score wasn't 58-0. What would that have wrought?

If you have proof, please show it. If you do not, please be quiet.

Does tiution cover meals, books, materials for classes? Are there fees for playing sports or is this also covered in tuition?

 

 

No on all counts.

You can't attend a private institution under full scholarship for any reason and be an eligable athlete. If you are attempting to keep athletes in your district, and they are going to a private institution, I fail to see how that doesn't become other people's business. It becomes other people's business when competition is involved because those decisions are affecting other people IMO. As far as the beating the dead horse from the earlier post, I am simply waiting for somone to say that no one has ever attended Trinity on a sponsorship. This is the first I have ever heard of it, I have asked about it, and no one has fully refuted it. I would have thought this would have been fully refuted the first time someone bought it up in this thread, but it wasn't.

 

 

I think the only reason it hasn't been fully refuted is because there is no evidence or specific statements to indicate it has ever happened. I will go ahead and say that sponsorships at Trinity do not occur to the best of my knowledge. I have never heard any indications of such things over my years of affiliation with the school. Others on here can back me up.

 

Additionally whoever said anyone could attend free of charge is making accusations. The goal of the Trinity community is to provide a faith based, Catholic education in order to help boys develop into young men. If we had to drop football to further that goal I don't doubt that we would. It wouldn't change my support of my Alma Mater one iota.

 

If we could make a Trinity education available to every boy who wanted it we would. We want as broad a spectrum of student as possible. We have a special needs program unlike any other private school around (outside of specialty schools) and have made our campus more handicapped accessible than just about any other. We actually won an award for that a few years back.

 

We are about more than just football.

This thread has been eye opening. I have personally always argued against a public private split, but now I am seeing many points for it. Especially if student can attend a private institution entirely on need based aid. The work harder and get better point that I have read several times seems to be shrinking under the attendance and draw rules and policies that I have just read about on this thread.

 

Please elaborate in detail.

I can say that we received financial aid from St X, because we had 2 at st X, one at Assumption and one at a parish grade school. ( total of 36K/per year for out of pocket tuition and fees and books and lunches) We completed a fairly detailed financial statement similar to the FAFSA in college. When you do receive financial aid at St X, you are required to write a thank you letter to a specific donor or contributor. I don't know if this is a name randomly selected or if the school earmarks a specific donor with a specific financial aid grant. I can see where someone can make the "sponsor" claim, but the contributor I believe donates into a general endowment fund and the need grants are distributed via financial need. With the amount of money involved, I would believe an audit trail of financial documents, and compliance is needed.

 

I will tell you 2 things- not a lot of money ( estimated 5% for one student at St X. ) and secondly- a lot of middle income families cannot afford the Catholic high school route and the publics become a viable option. If the admission gates were open to Male for the Catholic grade schoolers, a lot of the students would go.

I want to say I think Trinity and X are great schools, and when you mention sports and see them win at soccer, swimming, golf, Cross country, tells us that they have great coaching too. I raised some nioce points and no one has came back, an analogy of beating my son in ping pong and needing to play someone better to make me better.

 

Has anyone put themselves in our shoes for a moment, I read about sponsers in the paper, maybe I should used schlorships, and I think its great kids can get into these schools, I have a friend who got in and he had several brothers who went public route, because of the cost.

 

Maybe a super 7A conference for them and include Male/Manual/other privates, and leave the others in 6A. I would like to still play the privates, Male is 3rd in the nation in wins. Thanks for the many insights, I don't hate the privates I hate satan.

I want to say I think Trinity and X are great schools, and when you mention sports and see them win at soccer, swimming, golf, Cross country, tells us that they have great coaching too. I raised some nioce points and no one has came back, an analogy of beating my son in ping pong and needing to play someone better to make me better.

 

Has anyone put themselves in our shoes for a moment, I read about sponsers in the paper, maybe I should used schlorships, and I think its great kids can get into these schools, I have a friend who got in and he had several brothers who went public route, because of the cost.

 

Maybe a super 7A conference for them and include Male/Manual/other privates, and leave the others in 6A. I would like to still play the privates, Male is 3rd in the nation in wins. Thanks for the many insights, I don't hate the privates I hate satan.

 

AL, I don't know what more to say. You want us to put ourselves in your shoes. Do you put yourself in the shoes of the families at Southern? What about Waggner? Or Fern Creek? Or any other JCPS public school? Do you put yourself in the shoes of Iroquois?

 

I can absolutely see that you want to win. But you want a simple solution and there simply isn't one. It's not that Trinity has kids on financial aid. It's not that Trinity or X have kids attending that you can't figure out how they afford it. It's not that anything is doing anything wrong, or anything more "right' than anyone else. It's a combination of things...both ways. It's a combination of things that make any program successful, just as it's a combination of things that factor into a program without as much success. Much is societal.

 

I don't get the "put yourselves in our shoes". We did when we made our decisions to put our kids in whatever school we did...just as you are when you are choosing your son's school. You've put yourself in our shoes and said "these don't fit right".

 

As someone alluded to earlier, the path for kids in Catholic grade schools pretty narrow when leaving. They can go to a Catholic High School, or usually their resides school or another magnet program. But Male and Manual very, shall we say, welcoming to them. There are some that get in, but the vast majority are turned down for whatever reasons. It's just the way it is because we didn't put our kids in the right public feeder schools. So, in order to get the values we want for our kids a lot of us choose to pay for that. And in return, we expect excellence for our dollars, for the trust we put in those schools to instill the traditional values we want for our kids. And at this point, I think it's safe to say that all the private schools take that seriously. Not all of us win championships every year. Not every sport is dominated by private schools. But the only thing we expect is that we continue to progress, to strive for that excellence. Nothing is going to change in the overall scheme of things. We just have to work harder. It's true. And by work harder it's be more committed as a community to basketball at Trinity, for example. To place the same importance on attendance, winning an building the program.