Eight classes in Florida. The bottom four average around 35 each. It's all about disparity(?) in size of schools. What would be wrong with the same playoff system with six classes? Imagine the regular season $$ games with rivals from different classes, more programs have a chance to compete. It will only make football more popular and stronger. It will also give start up programs a chance and encourage more schools to start football. Hmmm...sounds like football would be set up in such a way that almost everyteam has a chance at the playoffs...just like basketball! But could that be possible in the Bluegrass state? I got another suggestion, have real spring football in May and watch the college interest increase 1000 fold in the state. :jump:

 

Excellent post. And Florida is one of the better states for high school football.

 

I am all for the 'real' spring football as well. Not every school could participate as many would have conflicts with other sports, but that would be the kids' choice. I like it.

Don't you realize it is a way for parents to deal with the fact that their son is not good enough to play college football-blame the coaches!!!!!

 

With all due respect to "coaches" in many cases it is the "position" "coaches" resposibility to see that a player is taught the correct way to play the game and "teach" the correct "mindset," but many "position" "coaches" fail to do more than say "...you go here.....and then go there.....I do realize that in many cases the player is resposible for his own developement, but it takes equal effort from coaches, parents and player IMO. (in no certain order) I do think that the blame gets misdirected to the "Head" "Coach" when the real blame should be with the "position" "coach."

 

 

Help us keep it on topic guys, Ok?

Eight classes in Florida.

And Florida has more than twice as many schools that play football as Kentucky.

I got another suggestion, have real spring football in May and watch the college interest increase 1000 fold in the state.

The insitution of full-fledged spring football will not have that big an impact on recruiting. Kentucky is a small state and produces fewer players than many other states ... that is why colleges focus more on other areas.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe that Ohio and Pennsylvania have spring football, and those states seem to have plenty of guys getting scholarship offers.

 

Going to six classes won't have an effect on it, either.

And Florida has more than twice as many schools that play football as Kentucky.

 

The bottom 4 classes in Florida average around 35 teams per class.

Florida's breakdowns ...

 

Class 6A

(82 schools; student population: 2584-4742)

 

Class 5A

(76 schools; student population: 2055-2583)

 

Class 4A

(81 schools; student population: 1708-2054)

 

Class 3A

(79 schools; student population: 1067-1707)

 

Class 2A

(37 schools; student population: 617-1066)

 

Class 2B

(39 schools; student population: 411-616)

 

Class 1A

(40 schools; student population: 233-410)

 

Class 1B

(38 schools; student population: 50-232)

The bottom 4 classes in Florida average around 35 teams per class.

Only because Florida doesn't have that many small schools. And just because Florida does it doesn't mean it's the right choice for Kentucky.

Only because Florida doesn't have that many small schools. And just because Florida does it doesn't mean it's the right choice for Kentucky.

 

 

 

 

 

I think as a whole the state of Ky high school football would see an improvement with the change to six classes although personally I would rather see 5. But the more teams that can play longer will benefit all, even if it is considered to be watered down.

Florida's breakdowns ...

 

Class 6A

(82 schools; student population: 2584-4742)

 

Class 5A

(76 schools; student population: 2055-2583)

 

Class 4A

(81 schools; student population: 1708-2054)

 

Class 3A

(79 schools; student population: 1067-1707)

 

Class 2A

(37 schools; student population: 617-1066)

 

Class 2B

(39 schools; student population: 411-616)

 

Class 1A

(40 schools; student population: 233-410)

 

Class 1B

(38 schools; student population: 50-232)

 

Looking at Class 6A, how can a school with 2584 compete with a school with 4742? This BIG discrepancy makes our Kentucky situation seem like a mole hill. It looks like they need to add a couple more classes at the top end to remedy this situation. :lol:

 

Another interesting observation is that according to Kentucky educational beliefs, once a school exceeds 1000 in enrollment, the educational potential declines, so we build complete new schools instead of expanding facilities (it does create more administrative jobs, construction jobs, etc.). In Florida, approximately 70% of the schools exceed the magic 1000 number. Does this mean that the educational system in Florida is far below that in Kentucky, or do they know something that we don't?

So what there are only 35 fairly evenly divided teams...Patriots won the Super Bowl but heck there are only 32 evenly divided teams.

Great point, I would love to win a state title in anything even if there were only 2, 3 , or 4 teams involved much less 35 seems like a good plan to me.

Looking at Class 6A, how can a school with 2584 compete with a school with 4742? This BIG discrepancy makes our Kentucky situation seem like a mole hill. It looks like they need to add a couple more classes at the top end to remedy this situation. :lol:

I think the gap between 1,300 and 2,600, in terms of available talent, is larger than the gap between schools of the size you described.

Another interesting observation is that according to Kentucky educational beliefs, once a school exceeds 1000 in enrollment, the educational potential declines, so we build complete new schools instead of expanding facilities (it does create more administrative jobs, construction jobs, etc.). In Florida, approximately 70% of the schools exceed the magic 1000 number. Does this mean that the educational system in Florida is far below that in Kentucky, or do they know something that we don't?

Actually, I think the "magic number' (so to speak) is more like 1,500 in Kentucky. Most systems, when a school gets that big, tends to split it in two.

 

I suspect the primary reason Florida has so many mammoth-sized schools is the general feeling that it's cost-prohibitive to downsize existing schools and build others to accommodate them.

And Florida has more than twice as many schools that play football as Kentucky.

The insitution of full-fledged spring football will not have that big an impact on recruiting. Kentucky is a small state and produces fewer players than many other states ... that is why colleges focus more on other areas.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe that Ohio and Pennsylvania have spring football, and those states seem to have plenty of guys getting scholarship offers.

 

Going to six classes won't have an effect on it, either.

 

The comparison point is that half of the eight classes in Florida are in the mid thirties and it is just as exciting. The more teams in the playoffs the better. That is for the kids. That cannot be denied. During the first round, a kid from phelps is just as important as a kid from ST. X. (Just an example)

 

Did you ever think that if Ohio and Penn. had spring ball they would have even more recruits? : ex. three counties in southern florida have over 300 signees a year. Over 500 throughout the state. There is no doubt that has something to do with coaches being able to "Discover" up and coming talent during spring drills. It makes a big difference. Kentucky my not have that many but it would have to increase it greatly. And, not to mention it would make the average football player in KY better. The more practice the better. There are great coaches in Kentucky.

Only because Florida doesn't have that many small schools. And just because Florida does it doesn't mean it's the right choice for Kentucky.

 

Ok, tell us why it is wrong. More championships, more proud communities, more student athletes involved, more money for whoever, football becomes more popular maybe?

Looking at Class 6A, how can a school with 2584 compete with a school with 4742? This BIG discrepancy makes our Kentucky situation seem like a mole hill. It looks like they need to add a couple more classes at the top end to remedy this situation. :lol:

 

Another interesting observation is that according to Kentucky educational beliefs, once a school exceeds 1000 in enrollment, the educational potential declines, so we build complete new schools instead of expanding facilities (it does create more administrative jobs, construction jobs, etc.). In Florida, approximately 70% of the schools exceed the magic 1000 number. Does this mean that the educational system in Florida is far below that in Kentucky, or do they know something that we don't?

 

Great point! :thumb:

6 classes is crazy!! I can see maybe moving to 5 classes to take in the very large schools. But 6 is not necessary. Most of the schools in the rural areas don't even qualify for 4A even now. If the system isn't broke, don't try to fix it!!

6 classes is crazy!! I can see maybe moving to 5 classes to take in the very large schools. But 6 is not necessary. Most of the schools in the rural areas don't even qualify for 4A even now. If the system isn't broke, don't try to fix it!!

 

Who says it's not broke? All I'm hearing is Private schools are winning everything; the same schools win every year; not enough athletes get are getting signed; why is it crazy? I don't think the kids would think that it's crazy. The numbers change as the classes broaden. I think it would be awesome. Look at boxing...look how many champions there are...yeah the heavyweights and middle weights get most of the attention but it's common sense, it's a weight thing. Football is a numbers thing.

 

Guarantee participation would go up, football would become much bigger. :ylsuper: