I'm sure the % of longer FG attempts is not real high, but if you have a kid that can kick it 35 or more yds in the air, it is an advantage to just get the ball in the end zone. the strategy is not really to make the FG , but to ensure the change of possesion is at the 20. I have seen this occur, it does happen. Are you opposed to this rule change? If so, why?

 

I am opposed to your suggested rule change for the following reaosns:

1. There are so few attempted FG's outside of the 20 yardline that this rule change would have little, if any, impact on the game.

2. Coaches with kickers able to kick at that distance would be less likely to attmept the FG, thus reducing the advantage of having such a kicker.

2a. Suppose you're down 7-6 with 4:00 left in the 3rd quarter of a very defensive game. You have the ball at your opponents 25 yardline, it's 4th and 5, and your kicker has already made 2 FG's from about the same distance in thiis game.

 

Why do you think this rule change would be an improvement?

I have a question... If the kicker attempts a 10 yard field goal (the ball is at the 3 yard line)... on a miss, would the opposing team still get the ball at the 20?

I have a question... If the kicker attempts a 10 yard field goal (the ball is at the 3 yard line)... on a miss, would the opposing team still get the ball at the 20?

 

To ask further, if you try a field goal from your own 10 yard line and miss (obviously), does the other team get it at their own 20? Because if so, I'd do it every time instead of punting!

To ask further, if you try a field goal from your own 10 yard line and miss (obviously), does the other team get it at their own 20? Because if so, I'd do it every time instead of punting!

 

You can return a missed FG. The key is getting it to the endzone from where it cannot be returned. Doubt if anyone can place kick the ball 90 yards

I am opposed to your suggested rule change for the following reaosns:

1. There are so few attempted FG's outside of the 20 yardline that this rule change would have little, if any, impact on the game.

2. Coaches with kickers able to kick at that distance would be less likely to attmept the FG, thus reducing the advantage of having such a kicker.

2a. Suppose you're down 7-6 with 4:00 left in the 3rd quarter of a very defensive game. You have the ball at your opponents 25 yardline, it's 4th and 5, and your kicker has already made 2 FG's from about the same distance in thiis game.

 

Why do you think this rule change would be an improvement?

 

I have seen attempts from 50+ yards that were missed, and the change of possession go to the 20 yard line. I don't think a team should be rewarded so handsomely for a missed FG. Just my opinion. # 2 would be to allow kick returns come out of the end zone.

One other rule is force outs on recievers during passing plays. They changed this rule in the nfl in which a player jumps in the air and its either his feet are in or they are out. I know in high school in 2004 the rule was still that if the player was forced out, that it is a judgement call whether he would have landed in bounds or not. Please let me know if this rule has been changed on the high school level.

To ask further, if you try a field goal from your own 10 yard line and miss (obviously), does the other team get it at their own 20? Because if so, I'd do it every time instead of punting!

The key is: The ball has to make it to the endzone, for a touchback. But, if it does, the opposing team gets the ball on their 20. If it does not, the opposing team has a chance at a return.

 

Now, as for the your point: there are coaches that do that, and there are coaches that have been very outspoken about doing it. If they have a kicker that can place kick a ball to the endzone from where they are on the field, they line up and attempt a FG. In many cases high school kickers can place kick a ball further then a high school player can punt a ball. It's a sound strategy.

Two questions.

 

Is it a touchback no matter what if the field goal is missed and goes into the endzone?

 

What happens if it doesnt make it to the endzone?

The key is: The ball has to make it to the endzone, for a touchback. But, if it does, the opposing team gets the ball on their 20. If it does not, the opposing team has a chance at a return.

 

Now, as for the your point: there are coaches that do that, and there are coaches that have been very outspoken about doing it. If they have a kicker that can place kick a ball to the endzone from where they are on the field, they line up and attempt a FG. In many cases high school kickers can place kick a ball further then a high school player can punt a ball. It's a sound strategy.

 

I thought that was the rule, but I wasn't certain. Thanks for clearing that up. And FWIW, I agree with the strategy from coaches with good kickers.

Two questions.

 

Is it a touchback no matter what if the field goal is missed and goes into the endzone?

 

What happens if it doesn't make it to the endzone?

 

Yes, it's a touchback if it misses and goes into the endzone. If it doesn't make it, it's a live ball in play.

Yes, it's a touchback if it misses and goes into the endzone. If it doesn't make it, it's a live ball in play.

 

Thanks!

 

From that point can the defensive team choose to have the ball where it was kicked?

Offensive PI. Way too punitive.

Change stroke and distance to just stroke.

 

Oops, wrong sport.

 

Allow runbacks of kicks into the end zone.

Eliminate spring practice Ohio does not have spring ball and they do just fine.

 

What makes one state better than the other in overall football talent is overall population.

 

 

 

If not eliminate spring practice then change it to intersquad 7 on 7.

Eliminate spring practice Ohio does not have spring ball and they do just fine.

 

What makes one state better than the other in overall football talent is overall population.

 

 

 

If not eliminate spring practice then change it to intersquad 7 on 7.

 

Well, we have a long way to go before we are Ohio HS football. We won't get there without Spring Football. Yes, you are correct that overall population is a big factor. But there are other factors, such as a lack of quality football at the earlier age levels in many areas. In Jefferson County, they're just beginning middle school football. It's one of the reasons I think JCPS lags behind the Catholic schools in football. Population isn't the problem. The problem is that many HS kids don't even get exposed to "real" football until high school because their parents can't afford the community leagues whereas kids in Catholic parishes can begin playing flag football in 3rd grade. So, you have from ages 8 until approx 13 without any foundation, vs. same ages learning from 3rd grade. The only way to combat that is spring ball where you can work on some crucial areas and get additional instruction in.