Organizations have just found a way to circumvent the rules by going this route or naming a coach in waiting. The Colts with Jim Caldwell (minority) did the same thing.

 

Still doesn't make it right though. If I was the owner or GM of a team and I wanted Bill Cowher and he also had interest in my coaching vacancy, instead of just being able to hire him I'd have to contact a minority coach and interview them with them and myself knowing they will not get the job, all of this just so I can go ahead and hire Cowher?

 

It's a stupid rule and was dumb when they first implemented it.

How would you feel if you were an African American coach and you interviewed for a number of head coach positions just because of the color of your skin so teams can fulfill this rule? Would you stop taking interviews if you know its just a formality?

 

As a minority, I wouldn't care their intentions or not, I would be going in to better prepare myself for the future. If I take the interview seriously regardless of their intentions I could make an impression on them and every time I go back for an interview with another team, I will be that much more prepared. At some point, someone will put in a good word for me. That is the attitude I would have to have if I want someone to hire me at some point. I believe going in with that attitude would increase my chances of getting hired in the future as opposed to going in thinking they are using me. If I truly thought they were using me, I can't say anything as I would then be viewed as a troublemaker and would never get a serious interview or chance to coach again.

I think it's a horrible rule. It makes no sense and disrespects all minorities involved.

 

Not if they get hired.

For those against the rule, how do you insure that minority coaches get the same opportunity as other coaches? We all see how that worked.......

Not if they get hired.

 

I'm talking about when the teams already know the coach they want and they are just interviewing a minority because they have too.

I heard T. Dungy speak today. He said he had a lot of inside info on Sea and he felt like it was 100% legit done in the right spirit. He wasn't happy at all with Wash. He said he felt like they were very wrong in the way the handled their situation. I respect him and his insights.

I think there should be a rule that every team have one white wide receiver and one white corner back. Then I will support the Rooney Rule.

People who want winning football teams, or any team for that matter, are color blind.

 

As for the rule, I feel bad for "candidates" like Leslie Frazier.

I think there should be a rule that every team have one white wide receiver and one white corner back. Then I will support the Rooney Rule.

 

classy statement...

Does anyone know the percentage of white coaches to black coaches in the NFL? Not only head coaches but overall?

 

My theory is that the numbers would be very close if you look at percentage of head coaches compared to overall coaches, by race. Of course, all we hear about is that there are only 5 black coaches. But if there are only 50 black coaches in the NFL that would be 10 percent. Are there 270 white coaches? (Those #'s are completely made up)

 

I don't know, just a theory.

I think there should be a rule that every team have one white wide receiver and one white corner back. Then I will support the Rooney Rule.

 

Your grasp of the issue is impressive.

Your grasp of the issue is impressive.

 

While not the way I would EVER state it he brings up a point. If you're not qualified, you're not qualified...regardless of race.

I think there should be a rule that every team have one white wide receiver and one white corner back. Then I will support the Rooney Rule.

 

:ohbrother:

 

The rule just says that you have to give a minority candidates an opportunity, not that you have to hire them if they are not the best candidate for the job. What could possibly be wrong with that?

 

It is also a great tool for minority candidates to get their name out there for future opportunities in case they don't get the particular job they are interviewing for.

As a minority, I wouldn't care their intentions or not, I would be going in to better prepare myself for the future. If I take the interview seriously regardless of their intentions I could make an impression on them and every time I go back for an interview with another team, I will be that much more prepared. At some point, someone will put in a good word for me. That is the attitude I would have to have if I want someone to hire me at some point. I believe going in with that attitude would increase my chances of getting hired in the future as opposed to going in thinking they are using me. If I truly thought they were using me, I can't say anything as I would then be viewed as a troublemaker and would never get a serious interview or chance to coach again.

 

:thumb:

 

I agree with you. Obviously, there are instances when a franchise already knows who they want and has a deal in place (like the Seahawks with Carroll). That's just how it goes sometimes. Even in that instance, Frazier could impress them with his interview enough for them to recommend him to another franchise.

While not the way I would EVER state it he brings up a point. If you're not qualified, you're not qualified...regardless of race.

 

Crash, the above statement causes me to question whether you understand the reason for the rule in the first place. Its that you don't or you simply don't think there was a problem.