January 12, 201016 yr Crash, the above statement causes me to question whether you understand the reason for the rule in the first place. Its that you don't or you simply don't think there was a problem. I understand why the rule is in place. I guess I don't think it was that bad of a problem. I truly believe race has very little to do with the opportunities given or not given to coaches. Winning is color blind, plain and simple. If a GM isn't going to interview a candidate because of their skin color, even if they may be the best candidate, they won't be a GM very long, IMO.
January 12, 201016 yr I understand why the rule is in place. I guess I don't think it was that bad of a problem. I truly believe race has very little to do with the opportunities given or not given to coaches. Winning is color blind, plain and simple. If a GM isn't going to interview a candidate because of their skin color, even if they may be the best candidate, they won't be a GM very long, IMO. There is a legit reason for the rule being implemented. However, I think that the problem has been reduced drastically. So, is there still a need? I think the need is still there however , as we've seen, its impossible to put a rule in place that truly fixes the problem.
January 12, 201016 yr There is a legit reason for the rule being implemented. However, I think that the problem has been reduced drastically. So, is there still a need? I think the need is still there however , as we've seen, its impossible to put a rule in place that truly fixes the problem. If an owner/GM wants to interview a minority candidate and seriously consider him for the job, they will continue to do so. Pittsburgh, Chicago, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Indy...etc. have already proven that they are willing to. From the sound of it, Washington won't anytime soon. It would be interesting to know how many coaches have received a job, or at least another job, because of this rule.
January 13, 201016 yr Author While not the way I would EVER state it he brings up a point. If you're not qualified, you're not qualified...regardless of race. The difference is that the teams are not forced to HIRE the minority candidates. They're just required to give them the OPPORTUNITY of an interview.
January 13, 201016 yr Author As a minority, I wouldn't care their intentions or not, I would be going in to better prepare myself for the future. If I take the interview seriously regardless of their intentions I could make an impression on them and every time I go back for an interview with another team, I will be that much more prepared. At some point, someone will put in a good word for me. That is the attitude I would have to have if I want someone to hire me at some point. I believe going in with that attitude would increase my chances of getting hired in the future as opposed to going in thinking they are using me. If I truly thought they were using me, I can't say anything as I would then be viewed as a troublemaker and would never get a serious interview or chance to coach again. Great post. :thumb: I have mixed feelings about the Rooney Rule, but this is easily the biggest reason why I think it's important. If the Rooney Rule (or any other rule) required an equal number of races as head coaches, then I'd have a problem with it. Instead, it simply requires that you consider a minority seriously enough to have them in for an interview. If they bomb the interview, or you decide they're not qualified, there is no penalty. You've fulfilled your part of the bargain by presenting a minority with the opportunity to win the job. The downside to that is it immediately plants the "race" seed, even in situations where it's not an issue.
January 13, 201016 yr It helps get your name out there and better prepare you for this process. It seems like a sham, but I really do think it helps out minority candidates.
January 13, 201016 yr Stupid rule. If I were a billionaire, running a multi million dollar business I would like to hire the people I feel are best for my company.
January 13, 201016 yr Surely you have more insight to offer than that? If I were a billionaire, running a multi million dollar business I would like to hire the people I feel are best for my company. See JA's response for me please.
January 13, 201016 yr If I were a billionaire, running a multi million dollar business I would like to hire the people I feel are best for my company. Where in the rule is there anything about having to hire someone that you don't want to?
January 13, 201016 yr Where in the rule is there anything about having to hire someone that you don't want to? Why are you (not you of course example) or anyone else telling me how to run my business. It's my money, my risk, my shareholders. Anyone is more than welcome to apply to my company. I will look at all resume's and call in the people I feel are most qualified. Why waste peoples time if I feel they are not qualified?
January 13, 201016 yr Where in the rule is there anything about having to hire someone that you don't want to? Listen.....for someone to tell me I have to interview a minority just to do so, is a ridiculous rule....we can absolutely disagree on this...I have no problem with that....you see in the NFL......everything doesn't always have to be considered black and white as separates....rules like this force the issue.
January 13, 201016 yr Listen.....for someone to tell me I have to interview a minority just to do so, is a ridiculous rule....we can absolutely disagree on this...I have no problem with that....you see in the NFL......everything doesn't always have to be considered black and white as separates....rules like this force the issue. I agree with this completely. Would an owner really not hire a minority if they felt he was the best candidate for the job? I don't think so. Owners want to win and there's only one color they're worried about, Green.
January 13, 201016 yr Author Why are you (not you of course example) or anyone else telling me how to run my business. It's my money, my risk, my shareholders. Anyone is more than welcome to apply to my company. I will look at all resume's and call in the people I feel are most qualified. Why waste peoples time if I feel they are not qualified? Read PurplePride's post. Also, you're not required to HIRE a minority, just interview ONE. Listen.....for someone to tell me I have to interview a minority just to do so, is a ridiculous rule....we can absolutely disagree on this...I have no problem with that....you see in the NFL......everything doesn't always have to be considered black and white as separates....rules like this force the issue. I feel like this sometimes, too. But PurplePride's post has really provided some insight into a situation that, quite frankly, we don't relate to that well. My problem lies with affirmative action and the racial undertones that it immediately brings.
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