November 2, 200916 yr My fear is that Reds go halfway between trying to win and rebuilding. That way we're totally frustrated by July. If we're in a true rebuilding mode commit to it.
November 2, 200916 yr The Reds aren't expected to sign anyone in the off season? It really amazes me each year people go nuts in April waiting for opening day tickets to go on sale, come 3 months later we are talking about Bengals training camp.
November 2, 200916 yr My fear is that Reds go halfway between trying to win and rebuilding. That way we're totally frustrated by July. If we're in a true rebuilding mode commit to it. I never really thought about it like that but I feel like that's exactly what we've come to. A gray area in the middle.
November 2, 200916 yr My fear is that Reds go halfway between trying to win and rebuilding. That way we're totally frustrated by July. If we're in a true rebuilding mode commit to it. I agree. I say bring up the best option between Heisey and Francisco and put him in LF. Move Phillips to SS and give Frazier a shot at 2B. I'm tired of going with other team's rejects and thinking they are all of a sudden going to be the answer to all your problems.
November 2, 200916 yr I agree. I say bring up the best option between Heisey and Francisco and put him in LF. Move Phillips to SS and give Frazier a shot at 2B. I'm tired of going with other team's rejects and thinking they are all of a sudden going to be the answer to all your problems.Wasn't Brandon Phillips an Indians reject?
November 2, 200916 yr Wasn't Brandon Phillips an Indians reject? Come on westsider. You know what I meant. How much of an opportunity did Phillips have with the Indians? Are you going to compare him to Laynce Nix, Willy Taveras, Corey Patterson and the likes?
November 2, 200916 yr Come on westsider. You know what I meant. How much of an opportunity did Phillips have with the Indians? Are you going to compare him to Laynce Nix, Willy Taveras, Corey Patterson and the likes?Actually, Phillips had two or three chances with the Indians. Each has to be evaluated on a case-by-case basis. And he already had a leg up on the other guys you mentioned because he's a middle infielder. Just as trading for a team's excess in some areas shouldn't be just written off as taking "someone's rejects," either ...
November 2, 200916 yr I agree. I say bring up the best option between Heisey and Francisco and put him in LF. Move Phillips to SS and give Frazier a shot at 2B. I'm tired of going with other team's rejects and thinking they are all of a sudden going to be the answer to all your problems.Frazier was moved out of the middle infield, apparently, because the organization decided his defensive skills were lacking there.
November 2, 200916 yr How long until the Reds trade Votto? Even with him having the trouble last year he could draw huge interest on the trading block. Small contract would be easy to move. With Alonso supposedly close why not move him before his contract is up?
November 2, 200916 yr How long until the Reds trade Votto? Even with him having the trouble last year he could draw huge interest on the trading block. Small contract would be easy to move. With Alonso supposedly close why not move him before his contract is up? If Alonso is ready, Votto to left field. Trading our best hitter ain't the answer IMO.
November 2, 200916 yr If Alonso is ready, Votto to left field. Trading our best hitter ain't the answer IMO. :thumb: I forgot he could play outfield!
November 2, 200916 yr Frazier was moved out of the middle infield, apparently, because the organization decided his defensive skills were lacking there. Since when? The latest I had read was that he was going to play 2nd base in the Arizona Fall Leauge.
November 2, 200916 yr Actually, Phillips had two or three chances with the Indians. Each has to be evaluated on a case-by-case basis. And he already had a leg up on the other guys you mentioned because he's a middle infielder. Just as trading for a team's excess in some areas shouldn't be just written off as taking "someone's rejects," either ... Phillips was given one chance with the Indians, and that was during the 2003 season. Most other organizations that are successful are going to go with their young guys who have been successful at each stop in the minors over 28 and above players that have shown over their major league careers that they are average players at best. The Reds for the last few years have chosen to go with the veteran players over their young prospects.
November 2, 200916 yr If Alonso is ready, Votto to left field. Trading our best hitter ain't the answer IMO. That has been rumored since the Dunn days and he can't be any worse than Dunn in the OF.... I am for it.
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