We've got to get permission slips for our kids to listen to the President, but they can get baptized on their own?

...on the otherhand, I don't see how religion can be detrimental.

 

On the otherhand, what's the record of Breck Co on the field?

Doesn't that make three hands?

I believe in the separation of church and sports.

Anyway, I don't think the coach should be fired for this. On the otherhand, what's the record of Breck Co on the field?

 

This is only the second year at Breckinridge County for Scott Mooney, but the Tigers have had very limited success over the last decade. Breckinridge County finished 11-2 in 2000 and lost to Waggener in the AAA regional final. Since then they have a record of 10-70, a winning percentage of 13%, with no playoff appearances.

 

2001: 2-8

2002: 2-8

2003: 2-7

2004: 1-8

2005: 1-8

2006: 0-10

2007: 1-9

2008: 1-9

2009: 0-3

I disagree completely with this notion that one must be 18. Most of the people that come to a saving knowledge of Jesus Christ and accept him as their Lord and Savior do so prior to the age of 18. That is to say a greater percentage. Accepting Him is a personal decision and can only be made by the individual.

 

The bigger news here is that a number of boys now have a personal relationship with God and as a result have eternally secured their life with Jesus Christ! If I had a 16 year old unsaved son or daughter and THEY DECIDED of their own free will to accept Him as Savior I would be doing back flips as soon as they came through the door and told me about it! Sounds to me like its' time to celebrate.

 

Since they had permission I wouldn't care if they got there and back by wagon train if neccessary. Sometimes the people are Baptized immediately upon profession of faith like this, I will say that the norm these days seems to be to do it in a week or so to give family time to plan and attend.

 

Hats off to you Coach, you are fulfilling the great commission!:clap:

This is only the second year at Breckinridge County for Scott Mooney, but the Tigers have had very limited success over the last decade. Breckinridge County finished 11-2 in 2000 and lost to Waggener in the AAA regional final. Since then they have a record of 10-70, a winning percentage of 13%, with no playoff appearances.

 

2001: 2-8

2002: 2-8

2003: 2-7

2004: 1-8

2005: 1-8

2006: 0-10

2007: 1-9

2008: 1-9

2009: 0-3

 

I didn't realize it was only his 2nd year. I did realize they are a perennial whipping team for the teams in their district. I figured it wasn't a good record at all. Thanks for doing that work, as I was too lazy. :thumb:

I didn't realize it was only his 2nd year. I did realize they are a perennial whipping team for the teams in their district. I figured it wasn't a good record at all. Thanks for doing that work, as I was too lazy. :thumb:

 

Your choice of "whipping boy" is accurate, because that's what they have become. If you look back at the 1990s, however, Breckinridge County did field some pretty competitive teams. During the '90s the Tigers were 42-56 (43% winning percentage) and made the playoffs six times. They lost in the Class AA second round to Owensboro Catholic in 1996, the only year they won a playoff game.

 

1990: 3-6

1991: 6-4 (lost to Mayfield in AA first round, 35-0)

1992: 5-5 (lost to Mayfield in AA first round, 40-0)

1993: 2-7

1994: 5-5 (lost to Webster County in AA first round, 14-7)

1995: 6-4 (lost to Caldwell County in AA first round, 20-14)

1996: 6-5 (beat Hopkins County Central in AA first round, 22-20; lost to Owensboro Catholic, 41-8)

1997: 1-8

1998: 1-8

1999: 7-4 (lost to Lincoln County in AAA first round, 27-19)

Your choice of "whipping boy" is accurate, because that's what they have become. If you look back at the 1990s, however, Breckinridge County did field some pretty competitive teams. During the '90s the Tigers were 42-56 (43% winning percentage) and made the playoffs six times. They lost in the Class AA second round to Owensboro Catholic in 1996, the only year they won a playoff game.

 

1990: 3-6

1991: 6-4 (lost to Mayfield in AA first round, 35-0)

1992: 5-5 (lost to Mayfield in AA first round, 40-0)

1993: 2-7

1994: 5-5 (lost to Webster County in AA first round, 14-7)

1995: 6-4 (lost to Caldwell County in AA first round, 20-14)

1996: 6-5 (beat Hopkins County Central in AA first round, 22-20; lost to Owensboro Catholic, 41-8)

1997: 1-8

1998: 1-8

1999: 7-4 (lost to Lincoln County in AAA first round, 27-19)

 

Do you know what the reason was? Could it be related to the same issues that Fort Knox, and other some other Hardin Co schools have? I know there are quite a few families that I personally know that live in Breck Co and work at Fort Knox.

Do you know what the reason was? Could it be related to the same issues that Fort Knox, and other some other Hardin Co schools have? I know there are quite a few families that I personally know that live in Breck Co and work at Fort Knox.

 

Don't have a clue. The collapse in football appears to have began around the mid-90s (with the exception of the good two-year run in 1999-2000), which coincides with Breck winning the state basketball title.

 

Perhaps they became even more of a basketball school, although they haven't won a third region title since 1995. There could be some Fort Knox implications; that's something I'm not familiar with. And it seems like I remember reading some a few years back about a lack of facilities, money/support from the board, and overall interest. I'd say there is a combination of several things that have dug this difficult hole.

I disagree completely with this notion that one must be 18. Most of the people that come to a saving knowledge of Jesus Christ and accept him as their Lord and Savior do so prior to the age of 18. That is to say a greater percentage. Accepting Him is a personal decision and can only be made by the individual.

 

The bigger news here is that a number of boys now have a personal relationship with God and as a result have eternally secured their life with Jesus Christ! If I had a 16 year old unsaved son or daughter and THEY DECIDED of their own free will to accept Him as Savior I would be doing back flips as soon as they came through the door and told me about it! Sounds to me like its' time to celebrate.

 

Since they had permission I wouldn't care if they got there and back by wagon train if neccessary. Sometimes the people are Baptized immediately upon profession of faith like this, I will say that the norm these days seems to be to do it in a week or so to give family time to plan and attend.

 

Hats off to you Coach, you are fulfilling the great commission!:clap:

 

So, if you had/have kids and they were taken without your knowledge to a church that say...handles snakes as a way of showing faith and you didn't agree with this practice, you would be ok with this and still clapping for the coach?

 

I hope my child chooses to be baptized and I also know as a parent, that I want to be part of that decision and help her make that decision. That is our jobs as parents.

If I had a 16 year old unsaved son or daughter and THEY DECIDED of their own free will to accept Him as Savior I would be doing back flips as soon as they came through the door and told me about it!

What if you did not agree with it or were of another faith...or even another denomination?

 

Since they had permission I wouldn't care if they got there and back by wagon train if neccessary.

They didn't have permission.

:thumb::thumb:

I will saw my few words and then shut-up on it so as to not offend. As a youth Pastor, I obviously have strong feelings on this. However, I would rather every 16 year old be in a church, temple, mosque, or any other place of worship than places that most (but not all) 16 year olds end up at these days. Our world would be a better place.

 

I agree. As some parents sometimes fail taking their kids to church and then gets upset when someone else does. This makes them feel guilty and ashamed. The devil enjoys someone making a mountain out of a molehill.

At 16 it's not his choice. You see I don't need someone to raise my kids for me.

 

16 year olds make choices every day that mommy doesn't know about. By that age you just hope you did a decent job and they have a good head on their shoulders. Any parent that thinks they totally control a 16 year old may be very surprised to what reality is.

16 year olds make choices every day that mommy doesn't know about. By that age you just hope you did a decent job and they have a good head on their shoulders. Any parent that thinks they totally control a 16 year old may be very surprised to what reality is.

 

 

While that might be true, guess who is responsible for juniors action until he is turns 18? That's right, good old Mom and Dad....

The bigger news here is that a number of boys now have a personal relationship with God and as a result have eternally secured their life with Jesus Christ! If I had a 16 year old unsaved son or daughter and THEY DECIDED of their own free will to accept Him as Savior I would be doing back flips as soon as they came through the door and told me about it! Sounds to me like its' time to celebrate.

 

Since they had permission I wouldn't care if they got there and back by wagon train if neccessary. Sometimes the people are Baptized immediately upon profession of faith like this, I will say that the norm these days seems to be to do it in a week or so to give family time to plan and attend.

 

Hats off to you Coach, you are fulfilling the great commission!:clap:

 

They didn't have permission. That's part of the problem. Apparently, very few of the parents were aware of what all was involved in this trip.

 

Secondly, and most importantly, because their parents weren't there, you don't really know that they decided of their "own free will." A high school coach has a great deal of power, influence, and persuasion over his players. You don't know if some of these kids felt obligated or even pressured to make some commitment they didn't fully understand or appreciate.

 

No one is claiming that having lives turned over to Christ is a bad thing. Far from it - it's a wonderful thing. But it is also a very personal thing and when it involves minors, it should also involve their parents/guardians.