I find it silly that a coach would be fired for taking a team to eat at Hooters, when baseball coaches routinely take their teams on trips to Florida for spring break that include time spent on the beach where far more skin is visible.

 

Probably a stupid place to take a team, why put yourself in the line of fire so to speak, but really how was anyone harmed by this meal.

 

I agree totally.

I find it silly that a coach would be fired for taking a team to eat at Hooters, when baseball coaches routinely take their teams on trips to Florida for spring break that include time spent on the beach where far more skin is visible.

 

Probably a stupid place to take a team, why put yourself in the line of fire so to speak, but really how was anyone harmed by this meal.

Have you tasted their food lately ?

I commend Coach Mooney for his actions. No matter what comes from this or what happens in these boys lives, their eternity rests in the hands of the most high God and they can go to bed at night knowing that their salvation is secure. I only hope that I will do the same thing if I'm ever presented with the same opportunity in the future. God bless you coach from a former CU student.

For those saluting the coach (and yes, I agree that his intentions were good), why should he have NOT consulted the parents? Why should he have NOT taken the boys himself, or used a church van, or had fellow church members pick the kids up?

This is completely wrong, the coach is an idiot, and I think termination is justified.

Those of you lauding this decision by the coach, how would you feel if a coach at Trinity or St.X did this and had them confirmed as Catholics and not Baptists?

FCA is usually a school sponsored organization.

 

That's my point. Fellowship of Christian Athletes...is there really any difference? We had kids saved in the school by FCA speakers...! If the super was there and in favor...is it not school sponsored?

This is completely wrong, the coach is an idiot, and I think termination is justified.

 

Glad my coach was an idiot when I was in school. One of the winningest coaches in KY high school and a NBCT Social Studies Teacher...what an idiot!

Those of you lauding this decision by the coach, how would you feel if a coach at Trinity or St.X did this and had them confirmed as Catholics and not Baptists?

 

This is a question...don't the kids have to go to services at X and T? I don't know, that is why I am asking. IF my son wanted to be catholic, and the coach took him to a catholic church, then I would respect the personal decision of my 16 year old son. God forbid he make healthy decisions about his spirtual life.

This is a question...don't the kids have to go to services at X and T? I don't know, that is why I am asking. IF my son wanted to be catholic, and the coach took him to a catholic church, then I would respect the personal decision of my 16 year old son. God forbid he make healthy decisions about his spirtual life.

 

Good point about it already being a Catholic school. They only have to attend mass on a few occasions a year, most of the time it is optional.

 

What if it weren't a Catholic school in the first place, would people be upset if their sons come home one day and told them that they had just been confirmed?

This is completely wrong, the coach is an idiot, and I think termination is justified.

 

No. No doubt a good man with a good heart and good intentions that simply didn't think this one through in advance. I think he should be counselled, but not lose his job, unless there are some other factors that have not yet been disclosed.

As a public school coach, what role should this person have in the faiths of his players? I certainly don't object to allowing the players to pray, or to the coach answering their questions about faith, mentoring them with wisdom garnered from the his faith, or what have you. However, when sixteen players get on a bus to go to a church to be baptized it tells me this coach is making an aggressive attempt to manipulate the faiths of his players. This broaches any line of decency for a public school. He is a coach, not a minister. It is out of line for him to be exerting pressure on them to switch to his faith. Furthermore, as a coach, the players may perceive that they will earn greater playing time or favor with the coach if they convert to his faith. That should not be a question in a public school.

 

Christians - and I am one - should not sit back and applaud this man's efforts. If this man truly influenced his players to believe in his faith they would not need to board a bus, together, to be baptized. I agree strongly with Hatz about making certain the baptized understand what they are doing. Otherwise, it is a dangerous, feel-good exercise with little religious consequence, particularly if these players eventually feel exploited and divert from the faith. If they were truly moved, the players would have pursued this on their own, and perhaps even invited their coach to attend the ceremony or accompany them to the church.

For those saluting the coach (and yes, I agree that his intentions were good), why should he have NOT consulted the parents? Why should he have NOT taken the boys himself, or used a church van, or had fellow church members pick the kids up?

 

I don't think it was the coach making these kids get baptized. I think that was an individual choice. Now as their coach I would have made sure they notified their parents so they could be a part of the event. I would have also asked them to wait and discuss this first. BUT each person has their own relationship with Christ. We don't know the relationship these kids have, so maybe they had been thinking about being baptized for some time.

 

Bottom line I think Coach Mooney did a good thing. Everyone should just get over the bus thing, it really isn't that big of deal.

Lose a bad coaching job to save 10 souls... Yep, that's worth it.

 

It must have been one outstanding sermon to pursuede 10 teenage boys to dedicate their lives to Christ. Anyone got a link to the pastor's web site?

 

FYI - MANY of the christmas tournaments have FCA sponsored church services if the tournament is played on a Sunday. Last year Montgomery Co. had Bobby Perry lead a service during the Gateway Classic. Several schools participated and drove busses to the event.

It seems like there are some in here who are OK with the coach taking these boys to church without the parents permission YET they throw a fit when the POTUS wants to talk to the kids about education.

 

Doesn't seem to make sense to me.