May 27, 200917 yr Never said anyone on BGP was. Swisher (like Dunn) is a below average defensive player and base runner too. Some of us realize there is more to baseball than OBP too.Swisher has on-base ability and power, two things the Reds could certainly use.
May 27, 200917 yr Swisher has on-base ability and power, two things the Reds could certainly use. At what price though. When you are a GM you have to not only think about skills and ability but... How much it is going to cost.
May 27, 200917 yr At what price though. When you are a GM you have to not only think about skills and ability but... How much it is going to cost.As I said earlier, Swisher was a lot cheaper this winter, when the Yankees were looking to move a salary and he was coming off a subpar season. I'm not advocating a trade for him now, simply pointing out to LCPATS that Swisher is probably a better player than he thinks he is.
May 27, 200917 yr Willy Taveras 8 Jerry Hairston Jr. 4 Joey Votto 3 Laynce Nix 7 Jay Bruce 9 Alex Gonzalez 6 Adam Rosales 5 Ryan Hanigan 2 Bronson Arroyo 1
May 27, 200917 yr As I said earlier, Swisher was a lot cheaper this winter, when the Yankees were looking to move a salary and he was coming off a subpar season. I'm not advocating a trade for him now, simply pointing out to LCPATS that Swisher is probably a better player than he thinks he is. I am well aware of his abilities, I am capable of judging a player, and reading their stat line from my couch just like you are. I am just not a fan of his. That's my opinion, you can obviously argue it either way. He isn't going to give you much more than the current platoon, and for a lot more money. Like I said to start this silly discussion, I'd dream a little bigger than Swisher. He is a career .242 hitter that it making well over 5 million per season. Yes he does have a career .355 OBP, but he just isn't worth that kind of money to a small market like Cincy. That's all.:isurrender:
May 27, 200917 yr I am well aware of his abilities, I am capable of judging a player, and reading their stat line from my couch just like you are. I am just not a fan of his. That's my opinion, you can obviously argue it either way. He isn't going to give you much more than the current platoon, and for a lot more money. Like I said to start this silly discussion, I'd dream a little bigger than Swisher. He is a career .242 hitter that it making well over 5 million per season. Yes he does have a career .355 OBP, but he just isn't worth that kind of money to a small market like Cincy. That's all.:isurrender: The current platoon ... who, Nix and Gomes? Both have their limitations, and they have less than 100 at-bats between them, which doesn't prove a whole lot. Remember Dickerson last season.
May 27, 200917 yr Willy Taveras 8 Jerry Hairston Jr. 4 Joey Votto 3 Laynce Nix 7 Jay Bruce 9 Alex Gonzalez 6 Adam Rosales 5 Ryan Hanigan 2 Bronson Arroyo 1 Dusty said he would be giving Hernandez the day off. Plus, Hanigan seems to be Bronson's personal catcher. It's funny that he had to give in to finally batting 3 lefty's in a row (Votto, Nix, Bruce) when earlier in the season he would not do it.
May 27, 200917 yr Dusty said he would be giving Hernandez the day off. Plus, Hanigan seems to be Bronson's personal catcher. It's funny that he had to give in to finally batting 3 lefty's in a row (Votto, Nix, Bruce) when earlier in the season he would not do it. 3 lefties in a row won't be seen consistantly throughout the rest of the season.
May 27, 200917 yr The current platoon ... who, Nix and Gomes? Both have their limitations, and they have less than 100 at-bats between them, which doesn't prove a whole lot. Remember Dickerson last season. Swisher may not be much better than these two. If Nix can stay healthy he has the TALENT to be much better. He was a highly touted of a prospect as anyone in baseball just a few years ago.
May 27, 200917 yr Swisher may not be much better than these two. If Nix can stay healthy he has the TALENT to be much better. He was a highly touted of a prospect as anyone in baseball just a few years ago.I don't think he was considered a megaprospect by anybody, and his performance in Texas left a lot to be desired. Unless he pulls a Ryan Ludwick, which isn't an impossibility, he's just a stopgap/extra outfielder. He still doesn't have great command of the strike zone, so we'll see if he can maintain this level of performance in additional playing time.
May 27, 200917 yr I don't think he was considered a megaprospect by anybody, and his performance in Texas left a lot to be desired. Unless he pulls a Ryan Ludwick, which isn't an impossibility, he's just a stopgap/extra outfielder. He still doesn't have great command of the strike zone, so we'll see if he can maintain this level of performance in additional playing time. I am not sure what your definition of megaprospect is... However, Nix was the top prospect in the Rangers organization atleast one year. Maybe the top rated prospect by Baseball America in one of the Major League Baseball Teams does not designate a "megaprospect"... But it means you certainly have a level of high TALENT. I am finished with this discussion, you may type any rebuttle that you would like. I am just tired of hearing about your man-crush on Nick Swisher.
May 27, 200917 yr It looks like we're going to get the Bad Arroyo tonight. :irked: Because of one walk???
May 27, 200917 yr Because of one walk??? You can usually tell after the first couple of batters if Arroyo has his breaking ball working. It didn't look like he did, but I hope I'm wrong.
May 27, 200917 yr You can usually tell after the first couple of batters if Arroyo has his breaking ball working. It didn't look like he did, but I hope I'm wrong. Looking good to me.
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