April 5, 200917 yr The truth is that you people have elected our first "Panderer in Chief". But, then, what else did you expect? Arrogance? I would say anyone who give the queen an IPod with his spoeeches on it is a bit arrogant, don't you think? As I have said repeatedly- this bird is dangerous.
April 5, 200917 yr Obama has really been ticking me off at the G20. Why is he making the US out to be the whipping boy? We are not to blame for all the world's ills. In fact, we're one of the few countries that aids others. Because he believes the US deserves to be whipped. Obama's worldview is essentially anti-American.
April 5, 200917 yr What exactly is Europe's lead role?? Objectively, I don't know. Subjectively, from Obama's perspective, this is an easy question to answer. In comparision to the US they have: Bigger government Higher income taxes. Higher taxes on gasoline. Fewer big cars and more mass transportation Socialized medicine Implemented cap and trade to limit CO2 emissions A weak military Ceded leadership to the UN
April 5, 200917 yr You can add Holder to the growing list of panderers and apologists with his remarks about Americans being "cowards". I would think that after all that has been done in the way of money, set asides, quotas, and concessions that we could expect a bit of self initiative. The old "crutches" should be disarded.Too many are preoccupied with their "rights". We would be better served if "responsibility" became a part of the liberal vocabulary. Personal responsibility seems to be a foreign idea in this new era of "Obamunism".
April 5, 200917 yr Author Objectively, I don't know. Subjectively, from Obama's perspective, this is an easy question to answer. In comparision to the US they have: Bigger government Higher income taxes. Higher taxes on gasoline. Fewer big cars and more mass transportation Socialized medicine Implemented cap and trade to limit CO2 emissions A weak military Ceded leadership to the UN Obama wants all this for the U.S. also...
April 5, 200917 yr That place is hard to find in a country with a group of peope looking to undermine its leader at every turn. It is much easier to slam the POTUS than it is to simply look at his words to see if there is any truth to them. If I can't do a little self reflection and admit my shortcomings TO THOSE WHO HAVE FACED THE BRUNT OF THEM then I am stuck still being an adolescent. Can you really say that with respect to the current president after the way you and others treated everything done by the previous administration? Or is it simply a case that now that your man is in office the rest of us need to grow up and see the light?:puke:
April 5, 200917 yr The UN has been proven a corrupt organization and what does Iraq have to do with our "arrogance" toward Europe?? Check the air pollution standards in Europe.. They are a lot worse than the USA.. Why dosen't Europe carp about China's pollution which is the worlds worst? You don't think it is arrogance to tell a country they are wrong for invading a country that is no threat to you then you do what you are telling other countries not to do? Europe has harped on pollution around the world. As well as some in the United States.
April 5, 200917 yr You don't think it is arrogance to tell a country they are wrong for invading a country that is no threat to you then you do what you are telling other countries not to do? Europe has harped on pollution around the world. As well as some in the United States. There is one key difference. Russia knew Georgia was not a threat to them before they invaded. This isn't true for the US and Iraq. (If you believe that Bush knew Saddam didn't have WMD's before the US invaded then we'll have to agree to disagree.)
April 5, 200917 yr The truth is that you people have elected our first "Panderer in Chief". But, then, what else did you expect? Arrogance? I would say anyone who give the queen an IPod with his spoeeches on it is a bit arrogant, don't you think? As I have said repeatedly- this bird is dangerous. The iPod also had clips from her last visit to the US. Her present to him was a framed photo of herself and her husband. Is that more or less arrogant than his gift?
April 5, 200917 yr Can you really say that with respect to the current president after the way you and others treated everything done by the previous administration? Or is it simply a case that now that your man is in office the rest of us need to grow up and see the light?:puke: I knew this would come up, you cannot find a single post where I bashed Bush. Not one. I disagreed with war, but I supported the Pres., and the troops. The only thing I generally bash on here is the worship of the capitalist free market system. If you can find one post where I bashed Bush, I will apologize. I just don't think it does any good to bash. See if I did not treat the Pres. with respect for the last 8 years.
April 5, 200917 yr I knew this would come up, you cannot find a single post where I bashed Bush. Not one. I disagreed with war, but I supported the Pres., and the troops. The only thing I generally bash on here is the worship of the capitalist free market system. If you can find one post where I bashed Bush, I will apologize. I just don't think it does any good to bash. See if I did not treat the Pres. with respect for the last 8 years. :thumb: Because some liberals bashed Pres. Bush, we all did, so that somehow gives some conservatives all the reason they need to bash Pres. Obama. Again, if one did it, we ALL did it. It's really interesting rationalization. :ohbrother:
April 5, 200917 yr There is one key difference. Russia knew Georgia was not a threat to them before they invaded. This isn't true for the US and Iraq. (If you believe that Bush knew Saddam didn't have WMD's before the US invaded then we'll have to agree to disagree.) He was being told by the UN inspectors that there was no evidence of WMD. Bush ordered the UN inspectors ot before they could finish their inspection, and we invaded.
April 5, 200917 yr There is one key difference. Russia knew Georgia was not a threat to them before they invaded. This isn't true for the US and Iraq. (If you believe that Bush knew Saddam didn't have WMD's before the US invaded then we'll have to agree to disagree.) You honestly believe that Iraq was a serious threat to the United States?
April 5, 200917 yr You honestly believe that Iraq was a serious threat to the United States? Based on out treaties, if Saddam were to attack Israel, what would have been out actions?
April 5, 200917 yr I knew this would come up, you cannot find a single post where I bashed Bush. Not one. I disagreed with war, but I supported the Pres., and the troops. The only thing I generally bash on here is the worship of the capitalist free market system. If you can find one post where I bashed Bush, I will apologize. I just don't think it does any good to bash. See if I did not treat the Pres. with respect for the last 8 years. Because for some reason you believe that a governmental and economic system should be a "moral" system. I find the very thought preposterous.
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