April 4, 200917 yr So...were the 8 infractions for giving coupons to 8 players? Or were there other incidents. "The violations involving Pitino included providing round-trip air fare for a player between New York and Honolulu, arranging for student-athletes to receive used cars for season tickets, and handing out coupons to players for free food at McDonald's." http://www.nytimes.com/1989/05/24/sports/pitino-unfazed-by-past-infractions.html?n=Top%2FReference%2FTimes%20Topics%2FPeople%2FP%2FPitino%2C%20Rick
April 4, 200917 yr Naturally, we would only hear about the McD's coupons from the 'Ville contingent. :sssh: But, the guy with zero infractions is a certain cheater and we've made a deal with the devil. Makes sense.
April 4, 200917 yr Naturally, we would only hear about the McD's coupons from the 'Ville contingent. :sssh: But, the guy with zero infractions is a certain cheater and we've made a deal with the devil. Makes sense. I asked for details. DragonFire kindly provided them. So. I'm not sure why I'm being treated as if I have my head in the sand. :confused: I don't remember that far back so I needed some reminding.
April 4, 200917 yr Those violations were no less than 7 years before I was even born. That's over 33 years. I'd say 33 clean years is more than enough to forgive incidents in his first three years as a coach.
April 4, 200917 yr Those violations were no less than 7 years before I was even born. That's over 33 years. I'd say 33 clean years is more than enough to forgive incidents in his first three years as a coach. Actually, he was a graduate assistant at the time...I wouldn't even qualify him as a "real" coach then. :lol:
April 4, 200917 yr NCAA Violations Rick Pitino- 8 John Calipari- 0 I'm just saying. :lol::thumb::thumb::notworthy: Envy Our Past..................Fear Our Future!!!!!!!!!!! :popcorn:
April 4, 200917 yr I asked for details. DragonFire kindly provided them. So. I'm not sure why I'm being treated as if I have my head in the sand. :confused: I don't remember that far back so I needed some reminding. I didn't have you in mind when I posted.
April 4, 200917 yr Those violations were no less than 7 years before I was even born. That's over 33 years. I'd say 33 clean years is more than enough to forgive incidents in his first three years as a coach. :thumb: I don't think anyone on here thinks Pitino is a cheater. But, apparently a lot of people think Calapari is and their posts border on suggesting it as known fact when the reality is there is zero evidence to support the claim. One incident at UMass (13 years ago) where he was cleared of any wrongdoing and a bunch of comments about WWW doesn't even qualify as weak. People are cynics. When they see a guy rolling in big recruits consistently they get suspicious. I always found it odd that Billy Donovan could recruit like a madman at Florida. Does that make him a cheater?
April 4, 200917 yr Just like Mumme didn't know his assistants were cheating. I mean technically, Mumme didn't get punished either. Excuse me but when did this thread turn into a Hal Mumme thread :idunno:, did he coach college basketball at U.L. or U.K.?...........I didn't think so. Death penalty? Who received a death penalty? Your post still doesn't address the fact that some UofL fans want to accuse Calipari.......... Rather ironic, and hypocritical no matter how you try to spin it. #1,) back on the 50' was not the death penalty, was a one year suspension :sssh: And #2.)........Yep. Cut the UofL fans some slack, they have an inferiority complex:sssh: :lol::lol: Not many UK fans have nice things to say about Mumme these days, I think it's important to note. Why is even the first mention of Mumme important with this thread? :idunno:..........answer, It's not. I don't believe UK was given the death penalty. I believe it was just a one year ban from playing basketball. Even if it was a so called death penalty, what in the world does that have to do with Pitino having more violations that Calipari? :confused: Nothing..........:ohbrother: Actually, he was a graduate assistant at the time...I wouldn't even qualify him as a "real" coach then. :lol: So, an assistant isn't a real coach? Hmmm...........doesn't matter if he was a graduate assistant or not, he was on the coaching staff and that fact imo makes him a "real" coach. I had questioned some of Cals' past with the NCAA as well (Camby/UMass) but reading all of these different threads/ comments by U.L fans going nuts I must say is flat out hilarious, very entertaining. I could say (and will) that I found it equally as funny when Pitino was trying to name U.K.'s coach for them , in a presser I heard/saw on espn he said that T. Ford or J. Pelphry would be a perfect fit at U.K.. Why???.....imo bc he knows he can beat them alot easier than an established veteran coach. I about fell out of the chair laughing when I saw his reaction to the Clapari hire when ask....."Uh, I guess you would have to talk to U.K. about that, we have alot going here at U.L.". He looked like he was about to blow up, kinda funny how his "advice" and "compliments" all of a sudden stopped, uh?(Hey Rick.....we could give a flip less what your opinions are.:sssh:) That alone tells me that U.K. has made the right hire :laugh: ...........:walk::walk::walk: Edited April 4, 200917 yr by oldrambler
April 4, 200917 yr Can we make a stipulation that handing out McDonald's coupons to players hardly constitutes a major NCAA violation? Frankly, I don't think documenting the transgression is worth the time and effort it took to investigate it.
April 4, 200917 yr Can we make a stipulation that handing out McDonald's coupons to players hardly constitutes a major NCAA violation? Frankly, I don't think documenting the transgression is worth the time and effort it took to investigate it. Well can we make a stipulation that providing air fare for students from New York to Honolulu and giving cars for season tickets do constitute as major NCAA violations?
April 4, 200917 yr Well can we make a stipulation that providing air fare for students from New York to Honolulu and giving cars for season tickets do constitute as major NCAA violations?You think a 22 year old grad assistant bankrolled the airfare??? He may have made the actual arraignments but I assure this was under the direction and payment of the coach. I would also wonder where he got those season tickets he was handing out.
April 4, 200917 yr You think a 22 year old grad assistant bankrolled the airfare??? He may have made the actual arraignments but I assure this was under the direction and payment of the coach. I would also wonder where he got those season tickets he was handing out. Almost like a player of yours talking to an agent, wouldn't you say? But still, Pitino gets those things brought up, and Calipari is considered a down-right, hell bound scoundrel that is the poster child for corruption in College Basketball by some.
April 4, 200917 yr Pitino is a cheater, it's been proven by this thread. I guess UK and UofL should be punished for hiring him. Coach Cal is a saint because he has no NCAA infractions posted by his name. However, he does have a missing final four banner by it. I would've like to of known UK's fans opinion of him this time last week. I bet it was a lot different... Like I said earilier in this thread, it has nothing to do with UK. I haven't liked him for years. As for the comments about Pitino's press conference, it was a season ending presser about UofL's season. A reporter asked Pitino what he thought about UK's hire, he said he thought Coach Cal would do great. Then, another reporter asked another UK question. That's when he said this is a UofL press conference.....etc. I think it's funny to continuously read how Coach Pitino is afraid of Coach Cal. You all do realize that Pitino has owned Coach Cal on the court don't you?
April 4, 200917 yr Pitino is a cheater, it's been proven by this thread. I guess UK and UofL should be punished for hiring him. Coach Cal is a saint because he has no NCAA infractions posted by his name. However, he does have a missing final four banner by it. I would've like to of known UK's fans opinion of him this time last week. I bet it was a lot different... Like I said earilier in this thread, it has nothing to do with UK. I haven't liked him for years. As for the comments about Pitino's press conference, it was a season ending presser about UofL's season. A reporter asked Pitino what he thought about UK's hire, he said he thought Coach Cal would do great. Then, another reporter asked another UK question. That's when he said this is a UofL press conference.....etc. I think it's funny to continuously read how Coach Pitino is afraid of Coach Cal. You all do realize that Pitino has owned Coach Cal on the court don't you? It's been documented that I have been a staunch supporter of Cal's since I've been on BGP. Just ask GT and UKMustangFan :lol:
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