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How Holmes lost the state championship in 1978

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Believe me, I am not saying Dickie wasn't a solid High School basketball player. He was certainly not great. IMO....people on here throw 'great' around a lot. It should be reserved for truly exceptional players; Ex. O.J Mayo, LaBron, Kobe, Magic, Dwight Howard, ..... These were great High School Players. Dickie wasn't even the best player on the '78 team. Schloemer (sp) was Mr. Basketball. Albeit Schloemer didn't have the size to be a good college player, he made much more of impact on that team. So please, someone, explain to me why this area attaches the reverence to the Beal name? Where is Schloemer Street? Is it a race thing.....I truly don't know. ......and yes I watched him play at both the high school and college level.

 

 

1. Beal was a great high School basketball player. Solid, that's funny.

2. He was a sophomore in 78 when Doug won Mr. basketball. :rolleyes:

3. Why bring up race, nothing to do with nothing.

 

Dickey and Doug are both class acts and Dickey even said on icn 6 last week that Doug was the best player to ever play at Holmes.

 

I to watched them both play in high school and college. Dickey clearly meant alot to UK's run to the final 4.

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1. Beal was a great high School basketball player. Solid, that's funny.

2. He was a sophomore in 78 when Doug won Mr. basketball. :rolleyes:

3. Why bring up race, nothing to do with nothing.

 

Dickey and Doug are both class acts and Dickey even said on icn 6 last week that Doug was the best player to ever play at Holmes.

 

I to watched them both play in high school and college. Dickey clearly meant alot to UK's run to the final 4.

 

Whose point are trying to make? Dickie was right, Schloemer was better....even better still was Jennings. You still haven't answered my question, why the iconic status for Beal? :idunno:

Believe me, I am not saying Dickie wasn't a solid High School basketball player. He was certainly not great. IMO....people on here throw 'great' around a lot. It should be reserved for truly exceptional players; Ex. O.J Mayo, LaBron, Kobe, Magic, Dwight Howard, ..... These were great High School Players. Dickie wasn't even the best player on the '78 team. Schloemer (sp) was Mr. Basketball. Albeit Schloemer didn't have the size to be a good college player, he made much more of impact on that team. So please, someone, explain to me why this area attaches the reverence to the Beal name? Where is Schloemer Street? Is it a race thing.....I truly don't know. ......and yes I watched him play at both the high school and college level.

 

Definitely not a race issue! Dickie was a Covington kid while Doug Schloemer came from Edgewood, I believe.

Definitely not a race issue! Dickie was a Covington kid while Doug Schloemer came from Edgewood, I believe.

 

Good point. Then what about Jennings? Could it have been the two different eras that they played? And, do you think we will have the same level of respect for Rico years from now?

Definitely not a race issue! Dickie was a Covington kid while Doug Schloemer came from Edgewood, I believe.

 

Doug was from Taylor Mill. I think he actually lived directly across the street from the Taylor Mill Fire & Police department.

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Did Schloemer spend all four years of high school at Holmes? Where did he attend grade school?

I will give my opinion on this matter.

 

Holmes got robbed of the 78' state championship. Nothing else needs to be said.

 

As for the comments about Dicky Beal not being great might be the most ridiculous ones I have ever seen or heard. I had the great pleasure of being a teammate with Dicky for 2 yrs. and can honestly tell you he is quickest and most fundamentally sound guard that I have ever seen. He was definitely the best player in the state his senior year(1980) and got robbed of Mr. Basketball because the media gave it to Ervin Stepp for averaging so many points against terrible competition and not to mention Stepp had to shoot every time down the floor to get his points. Beal also played in the Derby Festival in 1980 and outplayed Doc Rivers in every way. This is the same Doc Rivers who went on to have a great career in the NBA and current coach of the World Champion Boston Celtics. Plus, what adds to Dicky's greatness is that he was so unselfish towards his teammates and was always willing to help them out with a problem if he could.

 

So, for someone to say Dicky was an average player, just tells me that person is just wrong and doesn't know greatness when they see it.

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Did Schloemer spend all four years of high school at Holmes? Where did he attend grade school?

 

He attend St. Anthony's in Taylor Mill thru his 8th grade year.

Believe me, I am not saying Dickie wasn't a solid High School basketball player. He was certainly not great. IMO....people on here throw 'great' around a lot. It should be reserved for truly exceptional players; Ex. O.J Mayo, LaBron, Kobe, Magic, Dwight Howard, ..... These were great High School Players. Dickie wasn't even the best player on the '78 team. Schloemer (sp) was Mr. Basketball. Albeit Schloemer didn't have the size to be a good college player, he made much more of impact on that team. So please, someone, explain to me why this area attaches the reverence to the Beal name? Where is Schloemer Street? Is it a race thing.....I truly don't know. ......and yes I watched him play at both the high school and college level.

 

IMO people from Covington just relate to Dickie more. He had to overcome more than just the other teams defense. He over came the inner-city of Covington and the temptations that came from peers. He let nothing get in his way. No disrespect to Schloemer, but as an inner-city kid from Cov. growing up Dickie was the one in the projects running Basketball camps and reffing little league games. He was a GREAT HIGH SCHOOL PLAYER, but an even better man. Jack is also a legend in Covington, but Dickie was starting PG for the CATS, and he always reached back to the kids. Thats why we attach to Dickie because what he stands for as a man.:notworthy:

I will give my opinion on this matter.

 

Holmes got robbed of the 78' state championship. Nothing else needs to be said.

 

As for the comments about Dicky Beal not being great might be the most ridiculous ones I have ever seen or heard. I had the great pleasure of being a teammate with Dicky for 2 yrs. and can honestly tell you he is quickest and most fundamentally sound guard that I have ever seen. He was definitely the best player in the state his senior year(1980) and got robbed of Mr. Basketball because the media gave it to Ervin Stepp for averaging so many points against terrible competition and not to mention Stepp had to shoot every time down the floor to get his points. Beal also played in the Derby Festival in 1980 and outplayed Doc Rivers in every way. This is the same Doc Rivers who went on to have a great career in the NBA and current coach of the World Champion Boston Celtics. Plus, what adds to Dicky's greatness is that he was so unselfish towards his teammates and was always willing to help them out with a problem if he could.

 

So, for someone to say Dicky was an average player, just tells me that person is just wrong and doesn't know greatness when they see it.

 

Now that is a travesty.

Doug was from Taylor Mill. I think he actually lived directly across the street from the Taylor Mill Fire & Police department.

 

He went to St. Anthony's but he most certainly at least spent some time growing up in Edgewood.

 

Also this thread was about the 78 team losing. Beal was obviuolsy either very good or great, but he didn't start on the 78 team.

Good point. Then what about Jennings? Could it have been the two different eras that they played? And, do you think we will have the same level of respect for Rico years from now?

 

I've heard from people that played against Jennings that he was unreal. I honestly don't remember did his teams go down state? Did they do well when they got there?

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How did everyone get so far off the main topic of the thread??

How did everyone get so far off the main topic of the thread??

 

My fault. Sorry

IMO people from Covington just relate to Dickie more. He had to overcome more than just the other teams defense. He over came the inner-city of Covington and the temptations that came from peers. He let nothing get in his way. No disrespect to Schloemer, but as an inner-city kid from Cov. growing up Dickie was the one in the projects running Basketball camps and reffing little league games. He was a GREAT HIGH SCHOOL PLAYER, but an even better man. Jack is also a legend in Covington, but Dickie was starting PG for the CATS, and he always reached back to the kids. Thats why we attach to Dickie because what he stands for as a man.:notworthy:

 

Well said. I think you are right.

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