Fot those of you that have never seen how Holmes lost the championship in 1978 to Shelby Co. and Charles Hurt! For those who did see it up close and personal like I did try not to cry again!!

Actually, as I remember it Holmes lost the State Tournament that year at the end of regulation when they scored to take the lead and Shelby County called a time out with only seconds to play. The Holmes players were celebrating wildly and never really returned to the huddle to confer with Coach Flynn.

Coach Creamer set up a length of the floor pass-play to Charles Hurt at the opposite free-throw line. He was guarded by Doug Schlomer.

When the pass was airborne, there was a second of indecision on Schloemer's part as to whether deny the pass or allow Hurt to catch it. He opted for the latter and Hurt performed the predecessor or the Christian Laettner move, scoring and sending the game to overtime, long before the infamous goal-tending no-call.

 

Does anyone else recall it happening this way????

Actually, as I remember it Holmes lost the State Tournament that year at the end of regulation when they scored to take the lead and Shelby County called a time out with only seconds to play. The Holmes players were celebrating wildly and never really returned to the huddle to confer with Coach Flynn.

Coach Creamer set up a length of the floor pass-play to Charles Hurt at the opposite free-throw line. He was guarded by Doug Schlomer.

When the pass was airborne, there was a second of indecision on Schloemer's part as to whether deny the pass or allow Hurt to catch it. He opted for the latter and Hurt performed the predecessor or the Christian Laettner move, scoring and sending the game to overtime, long before the infamous goal-tending no-call.

 

Does anyone else recall it happening this way????

You are right about the game tieing goal by Hurt but how does that stop the goal tending from costing them the game and the championship in overtime?

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A. Holmes lost by 2. Goaltending call would have meant another overtime, although the entire overtime would have changed - so who knows.

 

B. Giving up the 3/4 length of the court pass to let Hurt tie the game was a mistake, but Holmes certainly did not fail to return to the bench. In fact, immediately after Beal's go ahead basket, Shelby County called a timeout; when they came out from the timeout, Holmes then called its own timeout. Reynolds told them not to foul, and that gave Charlie Hurt and Mike George a chance to make a great play.

 

It's a shame it happened that way, but other coach's have had the same play used against them successfully on a much bigger stage.

Dicky Beal will tell you himself, had he not taken that shot and waited maybe 2 or 3 seconds longer, that game never even goes to overtime. Dicky was the type of player that played with confidence and he wasn't going to miss that last shot. In the end, him shooting too soon gave Shelby just enough time to get that last shot off by Hurtt, which sent the game to OT and allowed SC to win on a no call.

We need to put this subject to bed.....along with Dickie Beals' so called legacy. He was a good high school player and a average college player. Can't understand how we could name a street after him. This years team will be the team to remember. IMO.

We need to put this subject to bed.....along with Dickie Beals' so called legacy. He was a good high school player and a average college player. Can't understand how we could name a street after him. This years team will be the team to remember. IMO.

 

Good high school players do not get recruited by UK or Depaul (back then Depaul was annually a top 10 team coached by Ray Meyer) and while Dickies college career was limited somewhat by injuries an MVP award of an NCAA Regional Tourney elevates his career to above average.

A. Holmes lost by 2. Goaltending call would have meant another overtime, although the entire overtime would have changed - so who knows.

 

B. Giving up the 3/4 length of the court pass to let Hurt tie the game was a mistake, but Holmes certainly did not fail to return to the bench. In fact, immediately after Beal's go ahead basket, Shelby County called a timeout; when they came out from the timeout, Holmes then called its own timeout. Reynolds told them not to foul, and that gave Charlie Hurt and Mike George a chance to make a great play.

 

It's a shame it happened that way, but other coach's have had the same play used against them successfully on a much bigger stage.

 

I was strictly drawing on memory and don't remember the second time out. I vividly remember Holmes players running around in celebration, and their tardiness in returning to the Holmes huddle.

 

It would have been a tough play for Schloemer one way or other. If he committed to the pass and allowed Hurtt to get behind him, that could have led to a slam-dunk. Not going after the pass still made Hurtt make a tough play while still out on the floor.

 

It was a truly classic game that is still discussed with great regularity 30 years later.

We need to put this subject to bed.....along with Dickie Beals' so called legacy. He was a good high school player and a average college player. Can't understand how we could name a street after him. This years team will be the team to remember. IMO.

 

Sniff...sniff....smells like bait.

We need to put this subject to bed.....along with Dickie Beals' so called legacy. He was a good high school player and a average college player. Can't understand how we could name a street after him. This years team will be the team to remember. IMO.

 

I don't have a problem with people discussing Dickie Beal. Covington isn't naming a street in his honor. He was a great basketball player in high school and went on to college at UK. I do think the 1978 Holmes Bulldogs (how should I put this nicely) did not have the best ref's in the tournament.

We need to put this subject to bed.....along with Dickie Beals' so called legacy. He was a good high school player and a average college player. Can't understand how we could name a street after him. This years team will be the team to remember. IMO.

 

Yeah, you're right about the street. We should save that honor for professional athletes that set all-time records.

No one is asking anyone to name a street after Dickie Beal. He was a great player for Holmes. I think Holmes alumi can enjoy talking about him if they want to.

 

Not sure from the post if you know this, but there is already a street named after him in Covington. I think Basement Barbers is expressing his frustration because he thought the street should be named after some other Bulldog great like Tommy Gullett.

I've been out of town for awhile - where is the street located? Tommy Gullett is from what class? I don't recall the name.

Yeah, you're right about the street. We should save that honor for professional athletes that set all-time records.

 

What? Do you mean like Tom Thacker Blvd?

Not sure from the post if you know this, but there is already a street named after him in Covington. I think Basement Barbers is expressing his frustration because he thought the street should be named after some other Bulldog great like Tommy Gullett.

 

I know you are knocking it, Steele, but Gullet warranted at the very least a WAY.....Gullett Way?