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Its a bind that, as a Conservative, I find myself in.

 

On the one hand, I want the new messiah to fail so desperately miserably that even Nancy Pelosi votes Republican in the next presidential election. Russia invades Ukraine, Hungary and Czechoslovakia with eyes on Poland too. Riots in major cities because the welfare check STILL isn't enough. Taxes so high many businesses close shop and the CEO's who can move to Costa Rica. Crime skyrockets, the stock market never moves above 7,000 and a terrorist with a dirty device is discovered only moments before....

 

But to wish that would also mean the millions who did NOT vote for this circus would suffer too. Mass unemployement, rampant inflation, gun bans, the works.

 

So the correct thing is to hope the new messiah is SUCCESSFUL. But that would mean he'd probably be elected to a second term. And like GW, that's when he'd turn off the answering machine and REALLY work his agenda one much worse than GW could ever have spawned: Reparations. Taxation to make things "fair". Redistribution of wealth. Your retirement accounts and savings seized to bail out Social Security. Mandatory Government Health Care. Everyone will be allowed to own guns in the same way people in Washington, D.C., now are: one revolver, which must be registered and can never be sold or gifted without an FFL involved. The chance to name 3 more ultra-liberal Supreme Court Justices, in addition to the 2 named in his first term.

 

What do you say?

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I can't understand anyone wishing their country anything but well. Why not wish that our country gets back on track economically and gets our respect back internationally? If Obama is a good president (ignoring all of your messiah and circus comments), why not want for a second term? Is it so important that the president be a conservative that we wish our country to fail and a president to be unsuccessful? I just don't get it.

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How could you not wish him well? His success is tied to the success of the republic intrinsically. It seems like it can only be an absurd, blind hatred or ridiculous party loyalty fueling this sort of desire. I cannot grasp that.

 

Now, if you don't want him to be successful in implementing his policies because you feel it would be detrimental to the country, then that is different. But crossing your fingers for the demise of the country just so a Republican gets in is fanatical.

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I was thinking out loud.

 

Trying to put into words whats going through my head and probably a lot of others.

 

In reality I want him to be successful in getting the country back on track economically respected(yet feared) internationally but fail miserably at implementing some of his policies.

 

Is that wrong?

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How could you not wish him well? His success is tied to the success of the republic intrinsically. It seems like it can only be an absurd, blind hatred or ridiculous party loyalty fueling this sort of desire. I cannot grasp that.

 

Now, if you don't want him to be successful in implementing his policies because you feel it would be detrimental to the country, then that is different. But crossing your fingers for the demise of the country just so a Republican gets in is fanatical.

Your second paragraph pretty well summarizes my feelings.

 

I hope that Obama abandons most of his left wing positions and is successful governing as a moderate. I do not want to see him successfully implement his left wing agenda because I believe it would be detrimental to the long term viability of this country. After a few years of $1 trillion+ deficits, increased gun regulations, fewer restrictions on abortions, more government ownership of private companies, soaring utility bills, etc., this will be a very different and a worse country in which to live.

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How could you not wish him well? His success is tied to the success of the republic intrinsically. It seems like it can only be an absurd, blind hatred or ridiculous party loyalty fueling this sort of desire. I cannot grasp that.

 

Now, if you don't want him to be successful in implementing his policies because you feel it would be detrimental to the country, then that is different. But crossing your fingers for the demise of the country just so a Republican gets in is fanatical.

:thumb:

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I am very worried, as I do not agree with many of the things that I have heard come out of the Obama camp. The liberal policies scare me.

 

But on one thing I am certain. He is my president and I support him. I don't support him blindly, as I will say when I think he has done something wrong, but will also say when I think he has done well. But, in either case he is my president.

 

Personally I hope Oprah is right. I hope he is "The One" to heal so many of the issues that we have. Until I have reason to believe anything else, I am hopefully skeptical.

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On the one hand, I want the new messiah to fail so desperately miserably that even Nancy Pelosi votes Republican in the next presidential election. Russia invades Ukraine, Hungary and Czechoslovakia with eyes on Poland too. Riots in major cities because the welfare check STILL isn't enough. Taxes so high many businesses close shop and the CEO's who can move to Costa Rica. Crime skyrockets, the stock market never moves above 7,000 and a terrorist with a dirty device is discovered only moments before....
Why would any part of any American want that crap to happen?

So the correct thing is to hope the new messiah is SUCCESSFUL. But that would mean he'd probably be elected to a second term. And like GW, that's when he'd turn off the answering machine and REALLY work his agenda one much worse than GW could ever have spawned: Reparations.
Reparations? Just another red herring ...
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How could you not wish him well? His success is tied to the success of the republic intrinsically. It seems like it can only be an absurd, blind hatred or ridiculous party loyalty fueling this sort of desire. I cannot grasp that.

 

Now, if you don't want him to be successful in implementing his policies because you feel it would be detrimental to the country, then that is different. But crossing your fingers for the demise of the country just so a Republican gets in is fanatical.

 

Well said. :thumb:

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Depends, and both. I wish him well but I also wish him to fail on some of his policies. It's not mutually exclusive. On the economy and security of the country I don't see how anyone could wish him to fail.

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