May 4, 200818 yr Not even close. 1:59.4 for Secretariat. 2:01.8 for Big Brown. Do you have any idea how big a 2.4 second gap is in horse racing? Yes...it's far, but Big Brown ran a much further race.....he may not be Secretariat but no other horse has either.
May 4, 200818 yr Yes...it's far, but Big Brown ran a much further race.....he may not be Secretariat but no other horse has either. I was responding to a post that said he may be the next Big Red. All I'm saying is he is not. He may be the next triple crown winner though.
May 4, 200818 yr I do, but Big brown is the class of the 3's this year, and I don't think it's even close. From what I saw yesterday, I agree. Great horse!
May 4, 200818 yr Not even close. 1:59.4 for Secretariat. 2:01.8 for Big Brown. Do you have any idea how big a 2.4 second gap is in horse racing? He has ran 4 races so you can't say he is the next Secretariat but he may turn out to be that good. Sure 2.4 seconds is a big gap but Big Brown just toyed with the field yesterday. Desormaux didn't even get after him that much. It was a workout for Big Brown down the stretch. Also, as Rockpride pointed out Big Brown ran much farther than Secretariat I am sure. He was forced 4-5 wide around both turns. The fact that he won the Derby from the 20 post easily and was only shaken up by his jockey makes the race far better than the time shows. Horse Racing is not just about times, its about variables throughout the race. Yesterday was the most impressive Derby victory I have witnessed.
May 4, 200818 yr If he wins the Preakness, then wins the Belmont by 50 something lengths I may reconsider. Until then, he is no Secretariat.
May 5, 200818 yr http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/more/05/04/bc.rac.peta.eightbelles.ap/index.html Not sure what to say about this.....
May 5, 200818 yr http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/more/05/04/bc.rac.peta.eightbelles.ap/index.html Not sure what to say about this..... If I told you what I really thought about these people I wouldn't be on BGP anymore. :madman:
May 5, 200818 yr If I told you what I really thought about these people I wouldn't be on BGP anymore. :madman: Thats why I kept my mouth shut... :thumb:
May 5, 200818 yr OK I know nothing about horse racing... are they saying the jockey knew the horse was injured during the race and kept riding it?
May 5, 200818 yr "If he didn't then we can probably blame the fact that they're allowed to whip the horses mercilessly." Spare me...
May 5, 200818 yr OK I know nothing about horse racing... are they saying the jockey knew the horse was injured during the race and kept riding it? Basically that is what they are saying, yes. Do they think though that a horse who breaks its ankles or does anything to them will be able to finish the race, much less in 2nd place? "If he didn't then we can probably blame the fact that they're allowed to whip the horses mercilessly." Basically they have already announced another excuse to fall back on cause we all know that was happened to Eight Belles couldn't have just been a freak accident.
May 5, 200818 yr Not even close. 1:59.4 for Secretariat. 2:01.8 for Big Brown. Do you have any idea how big a 2.4 second gap is in horse racing? But it also looked like the jockey pulled Big Brown up and didn't race him as hard as Brown could've went because he knew he won, he even raised up and shook his arms before crossing the line. What are the fastest times recorded for the Derby?
May 5, 200818 yr Secretariat 1:59 2/5 1973 Monarchos 1:59 4/5 2001 Northern Dancer 2:00 1964 Spend A Buck 2:00 1985 Decidedly 2:00 1962 Proud Clarion 2:00 1967 War Emblem 2:01 2002 Fusaichi Pegasus 2:01 2000 Grindstone 2:01 1996 Lucky Debonair 2:01 1965 Affirmed 2:01 1978 Thunder Gulch 2:01 1995 Whirlaway 2:01 1941 Middleground 2:01 1950 Hill Gail 2:01 1952 Bold Forbes 2:01 1976
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