April 3, 200818 yr I don't know if they would have or not. Just like I don't know if UK would have won it in 98 if Tubby were not the coach. If I were a betting man, I'd say yes they would have because they had 3 of the best 10 players in college basketball that year. :laugh: If you say so man... :lol:
April 3, 200818 yr :laugh: If you say so man... :lol: I'm curious to know why you don't think they would have? I mean, since Roy's track record at Kansas clearly showed he could win with talent...
April 3, 200818 yr I'm curious to know why you don't think they would have? I mean, since Roy's track record at Kansas clearly showed he could win with talent... Well lets see, the 2 previous years before Williams showed up, UNC did not make the tournament. Players even said none of this would have been possible if Coach Williams had not showed up. I am anti UK, but I always claimed Pitino was a great coach the whole time he was there. I don't let my hatred blind me...
April 3, 200818 yr I can't believe I forgot to mention Tom Izzo, he's one of my favorites... As for the UNC team from a few years ago, anybody remember who got drafted first out of all those kids from that team? A freshman by the name of Marvin Williams, so there is one recruit of Roy's. I do think that team would have been a contender that year with or without Roy though, they were loaded, but he might have been what pushed them over the top.
April 3, 200818 yr I can't believe I forgot to mention Tom Izzo, he's one of my favorites... As for the UNC team from a few years ago, anybody remember who got drafted first out of all those kids from that team? A freshman by the name of Marvin Williams, so there is one recruit of Roy's. I do think that team would have been a contender that year with or without Roy though, they were loaded, but he might have been what pushed them over the top. I forgot about that one.
April 3, 200818 yr Others: Jim Boeheim (SP?), Syracuse Jamie Dixon, Pitt Bo Ryan, Wisconsin Billy D, Florida (Back to back titles and no love?) Jim Calhoun, UConn (2 Titles and no love?)
April 3, 200818 yr Others: Jim Boeheim (SP?), Syracuse Jamie Dixon, Pitt Bo Ryan, Wisconsin Billy D, Florida (Back to back titles and no love?) Jim Calhoun, UConn (2 Titles and no love?) Another good one that I did not think about.
April 3, 200818 yr I did say I believed it was 2 of 3. And I have a good reason to not be spot on today. http://www.bluegrasspreps.com/showthread.php?t=149570:irked: Ouch, I wouldn't have come that close.
April 3, 200818 yr I like Izzo a bunch. I think Ben Howland has done a very good job. Those two and Pitno are in my top 5. This is such a hard question because I think everyone has the own opinion as to what a great coach is.
April 4, 200818 yr I like the idea that a coach who does not coach 5 Mcdonald All Americans year in year out should get serious consideration. Having said that I like Stallings at Vanderbilt and was hoping he would get serious consideration for the I.U. job. Mark Few is another good suggestion. I am big blue biased but do believe that we have 1 of the top 5!!!!
April 4, 200818 yr I like the idea that a coach who does not coach 5 Mcdonald All Americans year in year out should get serious consideration. Having said that I like Stallings at Vanderbilt and was hoping he would get serious consideration for the I.U. job. Mark Few is another good suggestion. I am big blue biased but do believe that we have 1 of the top 5!!!! Recruiting is part of the equation... If they're getting those type of players consistently, they have a place somewhere on the list if they hang around the top 10 most of the time.. Leonard Hamilton, on the other hand, has no place.
April 4, 200818 yr Billy Donovan has to be in this discussion. He turned Marshall into a Southern Conference contender almost overnight and has won two National Championships at Florida. In only 14 seasons as a head coach he has 320 wins, that means he is averaging 22.8 wins per season. He has back-to-back SEC Tournament titles and is a 3 time SEC Regular Season Champion. To put that in perspective Coach K had only 302 wins in his first 14 seasons (21.7 WPS '74-'89) as a head coach, only 1 ACC Regular Season Title, 2 ACC Tourney Titles, and no National Titles. If Donovan is able to continue the success he has had at Florida he HAS to be considered one of the greatest Coaches in the game. First 14 Seasons: Tubby Smith: 343 wins 24.50 per season 7 Conference Regular Season Championships 5 Conference Tourney Championships 1 National Title Billy Donovan: 320 wins 22.80 per season 3 Conference Regular Season Championships 3 Conference Tourney Championships 2 National Titles Mike Krzyzewski: 304 Wins 21.71 per season 1 Conference Regular Season Championship 1 Conference Tourney Championship Roy Williams: 388 wins 27.71 per season 8 Conference Regular Season Championships 3 Conference Tourney Championships
April 4, 200818 yr Author I think recruiting is a part of coaching in the NCAA. I think Roy Williams is right there. Bo Ryan is a good one too... His team is always there and no one ever seems to remember them. Izzo is very good as well...
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