Mr.Fundamental Posted February 13, 2008 Posted February 13, 2008 Everyone in the other threads says that education needs to be reformed. My question is why? 60 years ago, everthing was great, so what has changed so much that we now say we don't educate well enough, also what are your ideas to improve education... I can not wait for this one:D
MoreheadEagle Posted February 13, 2008 Posted February 13, 2008 The problems in current reform stem from non-educators making laws. We need to emphasize more math, science, and language earlier since that's when kids are more apt to learn. I'm all for school uniforms too.
Mr.Fundamental Posted February 13, 2008 Author Posted February 13, 2008 The problems in current reform stem from non-educators making laws. We need to emphasize more math, science, and language earlier since that's when kids are more apt to learn. I'm all for school uniforms too. Why does it take 12 years to study the English language?
SilverShadow Posted February 13, 2008 Posted February 13, 2008 Everyone in the other threads says that education needs to be reformed. My question is why? 60 years ago, everthing was great, so what has changed so much that we now say we don't educate well enough, also what are your ideas to improve education... I can not wait for this one:D 60 years ago, I will assume you mean around the 1950's?
Hatz Posted February 13, 2008 Posted February 13, 2008 Everyone in the other threads says that education needs to be reformed. My question is why? 60 years ago, everthing was great, so what has changed so much that we now say we don't educate well enough, also what are your ideas to improve education... I can not wait for this one:D Were we really? What's more, 60 years ago certain people loved the education they got. Others got less of an education offered them. I'm sure you can figure out what I'm speaking of here.
shamrock fan Posted February 13, 2008 Posted February 13, 2008 Why does it take 12 years to study the English language? In an essay I once read, John Gatto asserted that it only took about 50 hours to teach someone the basic math and literacy skills. So why 12 years of "compulsory education"?
MoreheadEagle Posted February 13, 2008 Posted February 13, 2008 Why does it take 12 years to study the English language? People learn language better at younger ages. I think we need to teach foreign language at younger ages to give our kids a better chance in the global marketplace. I met (and sort of dated) a German girl in college who started learning English and French in the third grade and could also speak Spanish and Italian b/c she learned those in high school. They also started more advanced math earlier in Germany so she was taking calculus when most of the freshmen at college were in pre-calc.
cshs81 Posted February 13, 2008 Posted February 13, 2008 I'd like to see the Commonwealth raise the level of candidates for teaching positions.
gchs_uk9 Posted February 13, 2008 Posted February 13, 2008 My biggest concern is the quantity of information kids are forces to learn. The lower level should be a firm stress of basics (math facts, vocabulary, etc.). The current primary system gives everything a hit-and-a-promise so kids have heard of everything, but really don't know much about anything.
Mr.Fundamental Posted February 13, 2008 Author Posted February 13, 2008 I'd like to see the Commonwealth raise the level of candidates for teaching positions.[/QUOTE] Increase the pay and I think that this problem would resolve itself. Also did you know that if you get a doctrite, there is no pay raise, interesting...
MoreheadEagle Posted February 13, 2008 Posted February 13, 2008 I'd like to see the Commonwealth raise the level of candidates for teaching positions.[/QUOTE] Increase the pay and I think that this problem would resolve itself. Also did you know that if you get a doctrite, there is no pay raise, interesting... My brother will be going off into the teaching world this summer. He has to get a master's within 5 years or something like that with no pay raise garuntee. I'm getting a master's and should get paid more when I get it. That's not fair to teachers.
cshs81 Posted February 13, 2008 Posted February 13, 2008 My brother will be going off into the teaching world this summer. He has to get a master's within 5 years or something like that with no pay raise garuntee. I'm getting a master's and should get paid more when I get it. That's not fair to teachers. Is the Masters going to be in Education or is the Masters going to be in a specific academic area such as math?
PepRock01 Posted February 13, 2008 Posted February 13, 2008 My brother will be going off into the teaching world this summer. He has to get a master's within 5 years or something like that with no pay raise garuntee. I'm getting a master's and should get paid more when I get it. That's not fair to teachers. Is the Masters going to be in Education or is the Masters going to be in a specific academic area such as math? You have to start getting your Masters within 5 and have it within 10 years. It doesn't have to be in Education, it can be in a content area. Mine will likely be in history.
leatherneck Posted February 13, 2008 Posted February 13, 2008 To the extent we're talking about reforms we'd like to see happen, I'd like to make it much easier for the public schools to throw out problem kids. As LBBC had elaborated on quite profusely over the years, the allocation of resources to problem kids (kids that are disciplinary problems and kids that don't want to learn) is disproportionate. They not only take up precious resources, they make it harder for those kids that want to learn to be able to learn. If it takes a constitutional change, then so be it but it needs to happen. Perhaps if teachers didn't have to deal with the problem kids, they'd be more happy with their compensation. Teachers are there to educate, not act as parents charged with disciplining, raising and motivating kids.
acemona Posted February 13, 2008 Posted February 13, 2008 To the extent we're talking about reforms we'd like to see happen, I'd like to make it much easier for the public schools to throw out problem kids. As LBBC had elaborated on quite profusely over the years, the allocation of resources to problem kids (kids that are disciplinary problems and kids that don't want to learn) is disproportionate. They not only take up precious resources, they make it harder for those kids that want to learn to be able to learn. If it takes a constitutional change, then so be it but it needs to happen. Perhaps if teachers didn't have to deal with the problem kids, they'd be more happy with their compensation. Teachers are there to educate, not act as parents charged with disciplining, raising and motivating kids. We used to do this, but there are no longer jobs for problem kids to take, and I know that you don't want them going on welfare when they are not educated well enough to find well paying jobs. Not only that, if a large portion of your citizenry is not well educated then it is hard to attract businesses to your area.
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