Roenker from HC throws smoke and his breakin ball for a strike.

 

What grade is he in? Doesn't he play basketball? Is he on a summer baseball team?

What grade is he in? Doesn't he play basketball? Is he on a summer baseball team?

 

10th

Yes

Yes

What grade is he in? Doesn't he play basketball? Is he on a summer baseball team?

 

He is a sophomore. Yes, he plays basketball, likewise football. In the summer he plays for Midland.

Roenker from HC throws smoke and his breakin ball for a strike.

 

Yeah this kid is only a soph he is going to be a stud by the time he graduates.

Another sleeper might be Davidson for Silver Grove. He is throwing in the low to mid 80's and he has been working all winter with the same pitching coach as Scott's Zac Adams (Scott Wiggins).

Does he play summer ball?

Does he play summer ball?

 

He did as a fresh/soph, I can't remember with who. His wrist was bothering him this past summer so he choose not to play. http://www.bluegrasspreps.com/ubb/confused.gif

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Can you expound upon this post. Are you saying, he's considering leaving High School and not graduating, but "exploring" his D1 chances at the schools listed?

 

 

I think it's a spoof Strike...as far as I know, this kid doesn't even play ball.

Someone told me the other day that the Hammons boy from Ludlow is throwing in the high 80's.

Someone told me the other day that the Hammons boy from Ludlow is throwing in the high 80's.

 

High 80's is very strong. I've never heard of the kid, but if If he throws in the high 80's he will be dominating and we should be hearing about him very soon. That's division 1 velocity. What year is he? Does he play summer ball?

First off, let me say that this comment does not apply to anyone specifically mentioned in this thread. They may all throw in the 80's, for all I know.

 

But one thing I find humorous these days is that anytime you have a discussion about some high school pitcher and how hard they throw, the answer is invaribly "Oh, he throws in the (low to mid) 80's." I would contend that the vast overhwhelming majority of high school pitchers do NOT throw in the 80 mph range. An 80 mph fastball is humming pretty good, folks. Of those that can truly can throw at that level, a good percentage of them are not able to throw it consistently for strikes. Many of those that can throw it for strikes do not have a meaningful offspeed pitch to accompany their fastball. Even good 80+ mph fastballs, if that is all that is being thrown at you, are eventually easy to time up. When it comes down to it, I'll bet there's only a large handful of kids in NKY that can legitimately and consistently throw an 80+ mph fastball for strikes and have at least one other good pitch to go with it.

First off, let me say that this comment does not apply to anyone specifically mentioned in this thread. They may all throw in the 80's, for all I know.

 

But one thing I find humorous these days is that anytime you have a discussion about some high school pitcher and how hard they throw, the answer is invaribly "Oh, he throws in the (low to mid) 80's." I would contend that the vast overhwhelming majority of high school pitchers do NOT throw in the 80 mph range. An 80 mph fastball is humming pretty good, folks. Of those that can truly can throw at that level, a good percentage of them are not able to throw it consistently for strikes. Many of those that can throw it for strikes do not have a meaningful offspeed pitch to accompany their fastball. Even good 80+ mph fastballs, if that is all that is being thrown at you, are eventually easy to time up. When it comes down to it, I'll bet there's only a large handful of kids in NKY that can legitimately and consistently throw an 80+ mph fastball for strikes and have at least one other good pitch to go with it.

 

I agree with this statement and will add that some of the pitchers may be clocked at 80-82 on a few pitches, but the key word is consistently. So if they throw 25 fastballs I would say 20 or 80% need to be in that range to be called consistent. Let's remember that a change of speed is a good thing... If you keep pumping in fastballs at 84 mph right down the middle you will get hit hard. Having one complimentary pitch, that you can throw for a strike, to go along with that live fastball is great, but to have a third pitch (change up) means domination at the high school level.

First off, let me say that this comment does not apply to anyone specifically mentioned in this thread. They may all throw in the 80's, for all I know.

 

But one thing I find humorous these days is that anytime you have a discussion about some high school pitcher and how hard they throw, the answer is invaribly "Oh, he throws in the (low to mid) 80's." I would contend that the vast overhwhelming majority of high school pitchers do NOT throw in the 80 mph range. An 80 mph fastball is humming pretty good, folks. Of those that can truly can throw at that level, a good percentage of them are not able to throw it consistently for strikes. Many of those that can throw it for strikes do not have a meaningful offspeed pitch to accompany their fastball. Even good 80+ mph fastballs, if that is all that is being thrown at you, are eventually easy to time up. When it comes down to it, I'll bet there's only a large handful of kids in NKY that can legitimately and consistently throw an 80+ mph fastball for strikes and have at least one other good pitch to go with it.

Amen!!! Could not agree with you more.:thumb:

First off, let me say that this comment does not apply to anyone specifically mentioned in this thread. They may all throw in the 80's, for all I know.

 

But one thing I find humorous these days is that anytime you have a discussion about some high school pitcher and how hard they throw, the answer is invaribly "Oh, he throws in the (low to mid) 80's." I would contend that the vast overhwhelming majority of high school pitchers do NOT throw in the 80 mph range. An 80 mph fastball is humming pretty good, folks. Of those that can truly can throw at that level, a good percentage of them are not able to throw it consistently for strikes. Many of those that can throw it for strikes do not have a meaningful offspeed pitch to accompany their fastball. Even good 80+ mph fastballs, if that is all that is being thrown at you, are eventually easy to time up. When it comes down to it, I'll bet there's only a large handful of kids in NKY that can legitimately and consistently throw an 80+ mph fastball for strikes and have at least one other good pitch to go with it.

 

I agree with this statement and will add that some of the pitchers may be clocked at 80-82 on a few pitches, but the key word is consistently. So if they throw 25 fastballs I would say 20 or 80% need to be in that range to be called consistent. Let's remember that a change of speed is a good thing... If you keep pumping in fastballs at 84 mph right down the middle you will get hit hard. Having one complimentary pitch, that you can throw for a strike, to go along with that live fastball is great, but to have a third pitch (change up) means domination at the high school level.

 

I agree as well with everything said above:thumb:.

 

The only pitchers that I have seen that are able to throw in the 80's for strikes consistently and with some good offspeed and other variety of pitches are Nichols (Dixie), Elliot (Beechwood), and Adams (Scott). I think Woodruff is around or close to 80 so he might be included in that group. This is only the people that I have watched personally so I'm sure there are a few others that will be added to the group

As far as the Hammons kid.....I am looking at his UK Showcase Evaluation from this last December and he was clocked with the following:

 

Fastball Average Velocity: 84mph Movement 40 Command 38

Curveball Average Velocity: 69mph Movement 40 Command 38

ChangeUp Average Velocity: 68mph Movement 38 Command 40

 

The Grading Scale is:

35-39 Above average high school ability level

40-44 College ability level

 

He was consistently clocked at 86 this last summer.....struck out 30 batters in 2 games at one point and the team went on to win the City Tournament at Crosley Field.

 

By the way that was during his Sophmore season.