My child is in grade school. Not high school.

I really don't blame private schools for the fight they put up. If I had this kind of advantaqge I would hang on to it as long as I could.

 

I honestly can't believe that some of you refuse to admitt that there is even an advantage.

 

I'm new to this conversation and board, but old to the game of football, I don't want to go in circles or repeat what has already been said. So like I said in another post, as we all wait for a college playoff system, I too will wait for this split and do everything in my power to help it. Which is not much. I do believe that it will happen. As we look to the weekend good luck to all the teams. Public and Private

 

BTW, BCS is the best system for college football.

HAHAHAHAHAHAH

Someone correct me if I am wrong but with the new transfer rules, I don't think this is correct IF the child has already been in HS.

 

I was told by a BOC member that if my child attended HS and played sports as a freshmen and then I wanted to transfer to a private school. I would have to have a legal change of address or they would have to sit out a year. That a transfer was only legal with a legal change of address. I could not stay in my same house and switch from a public to a private school (or vice versa) without losing a year of eligibility.[/QUOTE]

 

I belive that you are correct.:thumb:

I really don't blame private schools for the fight they put up. If I had this kind of advantaqge I would hang on to it as long as I could.

 

I honestly can't believe that some of you refuse to admitt that there is even an advantage.

 

I'm new to this conversation and board, but old to the game of football, I don't want to go in circles or repeat what has already been said. So like I said in another post, as we all wait for a college playoff system, I too will wait for this split and do everything in my power to help it. Which is not much. I do believe that it will happen. As we look to the weekend good luck to all the teams. Public and Private

 

Then I would advise checking into this forum, in depth. It is full of all sorts of useful information that I was unaware of considering the conduct of districts outside of Jefferson County.

 

I think that much of the problem we have in this whole debate is a dramatic misunderstanding between the two sides of how things work within individual school systems. I always assumed that, like Jefferson County, you could go to any school you wanted. I never knew that districts placed enrollment restrictions until we created this forum.

 

There is no doubt that we will acknowledge some of the advantages that we have. With our large, single-sex schools in Louisville we don't have to worry about Title IX or not giving the programs enough attention.

 

We encourage participation in the Catholic schools in Louisville at a young young age. My 9 year old niece has been playing sports at her parish school for 2 years now. Actually their basketball coach is Beauzac(Sp?) Smith who used to play for UL who has a daughter at her school. With the girls' schools we emphasize their participation and there are the focus of the school's sports, which I think in many ways helps them.

 

We also don't have enrollment restrictions. We want anyone who wants to have an education in a Catholic School environment to have that opportunity, whether they are Catholic or not. It is the Christian thing to do. We offer financial aid to families in need, so that if they wish they can have parts of the cost of their child's education offset so they can afford it.

 

Trinity, St.X, Assumption and Sacred Heart have distinct enrollment advantages because of their non-coed natures. 1300-1500 male students gives you a much better chance of finding football players(of course we are terrible at basketball, go figure). The 800-1000(est) that you have at Assumption and Sacred Heart, respectively, not only get the advantages of numbers but most of these girls have been playing their sports for years in the CSAA and with each other as well. Trinity and St.X both have similar advantages with football.

 

I don't deny that we have advantages, but many of the advantages that we have we have built and earned for ourselves.

I really don't blame private schools for the fight they put up. If I had this kind of advantaqge I would hang on to it as long as I could.

 

I honestly can't believe that some of you refuse to admitt that there is even an advantage.

I'm new to this conversation and board, but old to the game of football, I don't want to go in circles or repeat what has already been said. So like I said in another post, as we all wait for a college playoff system, I too will wait for this split and do everything in my power to help it. Which is not much. I do believe that it will happen. As we look to the weekend good luck to all the teams. Public and Private

 

Private supporters do admit that SOME Private schools have an advantage over other Public Schools and other Private Schools. But there are advantages that SOME Public Schools have over Pirvate Schools. There are advantages that SOME Open enrollment/Independent distrcist have over Public and Private Schools. There are advantages that some Urban schools(Public and Private) have over some Rural schools (Public and Private). The beat just goes on. The main thing to remember is that under current KHSAA rules, all schools operate under the SAME rules.

 

Now some want to enact the vote of seperation. If all Privates were gone, what do you think would be next? DUH! Everyone would start to rally the same charges agianst Highlands, Jefferson County, and the Open enrollment lot. And if the Private Schools decide to leave the KHSAA and form another association, a hypothetical situation could happen where open recruting was not only legal but encouraged. Under this hypothetical, don't you think the Public Schools would be even more outraged? Is our current system perfect- no, but does that mean seperation or Prop 2, which both IMO are horrible ideas, should be the answer?

Private supporters do admit that SOME Private schools have an advantage over other Public Schools and other Private Schools. But there are advantages that SOME Public Schools have over Pirvate Schools. There are advantages that SOME Open enrollment/Independent distrcist have over Public and Private Schools. There are advantages that some Urban schools(Public and Private) have over some Rural schools (Public and Private). The beat just goes on. The main thing to remember is that under current KHSAA rules, all schools operate under the SAME rules.

Why am at at the school that has no advantages over anyone?:lol::irked:

 

Now some want to enact the vote of seperation. If all Privates were gone, what do you think would be next? DUH! Everyone would start to rally the same charges agianst Highlands, Jefferson County, and the Open enrollment lot. And if the Private Schools decide to leave the KHSAA and form another association, a hypothetical situation could happen where open recruting was not only legal but encouraged. Under this hypothetical, don't you think the Public Schools would be even more outraged? Is our current system perfect- no, but does that mean seperation or Prop 2, which both IMO are horrible ideas, should be the answer?

 

I would have minimal problem with this as long as schools that are not openly recruiting are competing against schools that are not openly recruiting. And schools that are openly recruiting are competing against schools that are openly recruiting.

 

Let like schools compete against like schools.

Please don't assume that large city schools would be next. Actually, there would be no next. Nothing could be said again. Also you make it sound like they are not infavor.

What is next is not an issue. What you are saying is," we can do what is right because we are afraid of what is next." That arguement doesn't fly.

We go over and over this issue and I've come to the following conclusions.

 

A. The problem that people have is that Trinity and St X are winning all the time and there programs are getting better at a faster rate than the programs chasing them. No one cares about Holy Cross, DeSales, or CAL they aren't winning all the time.

 

B. The reason that St X and Trinity are winning is NOT recruiting. This is a false assumption primarily coming out of the rural areas who aren't accustomed to open enrollment or boundary-less schools.

 

C-1. The reason that X and T are dominating is due to numbers and types of numbers. There are around 240 more boys at StX (the marginally smaller of X and T) than there are at Dunbar the largest public school. In the new districts Manual is probably the closest program to St X in terms of competitive football. Manual has 560 less boys to draw from. For comparison sake schools with 560 less boys than Manual are Clinton Co, Middlesboro, Fort Knox or McClean Co. Exactly how much of a chance would those schools have against Manual.

 

C-2. The other issue at hand was addressed by PepRock earlier. For Catholics football is a religious experience. Catholics in Louisville have a cultural connection to football. It isn't just that more boys attend X and T, it is that those boys are 50% more likely to play or have played football than boys attending public schools. In other words the player pool is not only bigger its richer as well.

 

D. Fans who think the private schools "try harder" are just as ignorant and blatantly biased as those claim X and T recruit and pay (in tuition) players.

Why am at at the school that has no advantages over anyone?:lol::irked:

 

My bad. True the advantage of Rural schools are there over Urban(Publics and SOME Privates:D)

 

 

 

I would have minimal problem with this as long as schools that are not openly recruiting are competing against schools that are not openly recruiting. And schools that are openly recruiting are competing against schools that are openly recruiting.

 

Let like schools compete against like schools.

 

My guess is that if schools are in different associations, they really wont be competing agianst each other for Championships, but I fear things will be worse with relations between schools in the recruiting wars.

Please don't assume that large city schools would be next. Actually, there would be no next. Nothing could be said again. Also you make it sound like they are not infavor.

 

There is always a next. When someone corrects actions that are "unfair", there will always be another action that people didn't notice before that will be "unfair". Once "it" starts, there is always a NEXT!

Please don't assume that large city schools would be next. Actually, there would be no next. Nothing could be said again. Also you make it sound like they are not infavor.

 

What is next is not an issue. What you are saying is," we can do what is right because we are afraid of what is next." That arguement doesn't fly.

 

 

Think what you want, you obviously are not listening or even directly addressing my posts. You are not answering my questions, you are nt even ASKING questions. A question is along the lines of "Did Jake remember to pick up milk at the store?" Note the question mark, the little symbol that looks like this "?".

 

PepRock is done with this discussion as some people are completely unwilling to listen.

Peprock1

You don't get it. I'm pointing out the difference in enrollment policies. I believe it has a direct effect on athletics if one chooses to use it. (Many do)

I can not get help in attending Corbin, as I would a private school. Open enrollment throughout 6 counties doen't exist in the public system.

 

That all I was doing.

Peprock1

You don't get it. I'm pointing out the difference in enrollment policies. I believe it has a direct effect on athletics if one chooses to use it. (Many do)

I can not get help in attending Corbin, as I would a private school. Open enrollment throughout 6 counties doen't exist in the public system.

 

That all I was doing.

 

But what you're pointing out is only a problem in certian areas, and it is a problem because the local officials have decided this is what they want to do- which is their perogative. The advantages that you continually point out are not limited to ALL private schools. Some private schools don't truly have the advantage that you say. Some public schools do have the advantage.