D. There are many rational and intelligent people that are certain tuition payment is used to entice great football players.

 

There are many rational and intelligent people that get it wrong at times. Plus, just read through these threads, and you'll get your answer if just anyone can pay the tuition for an athlete at a private school.

 

 

 

 

In many cases, football player who don't even know what a rosary is.

 

What type of relevance does this have. There are no religious requirements for playing football at a Catholic School. Not all private schools are Catholic schools. There are no religious requirements for being a student at Catholic Schools. Look through the student body population of your larger Catholic schools(X,T, Cov Cath, Lex Cath) and you are likley to see a variation of religion, and a chance you will have some athiest and agnostic students as well.

What type of relevance does this have. There are no religious requirements for playing football at a Catholic School. Not all private schools are Catholic schools. There are no religious requirements for being a student at Catholic Schools. Look through the student body population of your larger Catholic schools(X,T, Cov Cath, Lex Cath) and you are likley to see a variation of religion, and a chance you will have some athiest and agnostic students as well.

 

 

That was a joke in response to C-2 of that post. Humor does not always transfer well to print. That statement was probably inappropriate anyway. I apologize.

How to you split the quotes in a reply?

That was a joke in response to C-2 of that post. Humor does not always transfer well to print.

Fair enough, just use some smilies next time.

 

Quote bubble on toolbar will let you wrap certian text in quotes.

 

That statement was probably inappropriate anyway. I apologize.

 

It's okay, but there are some who don't know all the facts, and when facts are presented they don't listen, and only believe what they want to. That can get frustrating sometimes.

St. Xavier was an original member of the KHSAA. When this organization was founded, it's main concern was the age of the student athletes, not where they lived.

 

Keep in mind, if this is about Trinity and St. Xavier 's dominance in football, in 1974 it was the public schools out in the state who demanded to play the Jefferson County schools at the highest classification. Boone County, as an example, wasn't satisfied competing in class AA. The publics convinced the KHSAA they were able to compete with the Jefferson County schools, ironically right when busing started. Busing helped destroy many programs in the public sector. Since that time, Trinity and St. Xavier have grown in enrollment, while the public schools numbers have diminished, mainly by choice.(Welcome Cooper High to the Boone County system).

 

St. X and Trinity have not won a basketball title in this time frame. I believe St. X has won one baseball title. Trinity has one wrestling team title.

 

If it was all about recruiting, don't you think Trinity and St. X would have come up with enough talent to win more titles in these other sports? One or two superstar basketballers would be enough, don't you think?

 

Football is the one sport where numbers have the biggest impact. Get Southern back to 2500 students. Let Male and Manual merge, then you would have a program that could be on par with Colerain in Ohio (who has refused to split into two schools).

Are the demographics of X's and T's student population made public? If so, where can I find the % of students residing outside Jefferson County. This would be very interesting to see and would shed some light on just how much of an advantage it is to be able to enroll students from the surrounding counties.

A. True

 

B. False. The enrollments at X and T are so high largely because they recruit from several counties, even outside Kentucky in some cases.

 

 

Really? Fact or fiction - X and T need to recruit outside the traditional Catholic grade school system and/or outside Jefferson County to sustain their enrollment?

 

Lets get the numbers and see.

 

According to published numbers on the Archdiocese of Louisville website - link here:

 

The enrollment for all the Catholic High Schools is 6,292.

 

Divide this number by 4 to get the expected number of incoming freshmen:

 

That number is 1,573.

 

So if the statement above is true there should be far fewer than 1,573 graduating Catholic 8th graders in the Archdiocese.

 

Lets keep going.....

 

 

The enrollment for all diocese elementary schools is 14,663.

 

That does include schools outside Jefferson county. For grins lets do just Jefferson County Catholic schools as well. That number is 12,304.

 

Most schools offer K-8 though it does vary a little. But even so lets be conservative and take the values above and divide by 9 and assume that is the number graduating students from the Catholic 8 grade. That gives us:

 

Entire Archdoicese of Louisville: 1,629

Jefferson County catholic schools only: 1,367

 

So the numbers show the output of graduating 8th graders from the entire Archdiocese EXCEEDs the number of incoming freshmen for the Archdiocese school school system. So the premise that X and T or any of the Catholic HSs has to blatently recruit to sustain enrollment would look to be completely false by looking at the published numbers. The number indicate that the Catholic school system enrollment is stable and balanced and there is no need to aggressively recruit outside the traditional feeder system.

 

Do kids outside Jefferson County go to X and T - of course. But does that mean they were lured their by hard nosed marketing and the schools beating the bush in the outlying counties - hardly. Same thing goes for LC and Fayette County.

Basically your saying there are roughly 1600 freshmen on average (I rounded up because the freshman class is usually the largest class) and 1600 outgoing 8th graders (including the surrounding counties). Correct? I don't think the catholic school system is hanging on to every kid from Pre-K until graduation. I think the billboards, TV ads, radio ads, newspaper ads, etc. are marketed for more than just the catholic elementary students.

 

Anyway, no one has a problem with recruiting by the catholic schools. It is the recruiting of athletes that troubles me, particularly public school athletes who only consider catholic school after heavy recruitment from a school representative. This is wrong in Jefferson County but compounded by the same tactics in surrounding counties.

 

Note: From the link you provided I see most catholic elementary schools offer pre-K. So your outgoing 8th grade number would be more valid if you would have divided by 10, or at least 9.5.

When exactly do students become the property of a particular school system?

When exactly do students become the property of a particular school system?

 

According to now defunked Prop 2 it was officially to be at 7th grade since if you changed school systems after that you got the freshman year 'death penalty'.

 

I guess a new definition will be found now!

When exactly do students become the property of a particular school system?

 

Are you talking athletics or educationally? Athletics the answer if 9th grade.

Educationally, when a student moves into the public school district, the state government holds that school district responsible for their education.

When exactly do students become the property of a particular school system?

 

What exactly should be the outer most geographical limit for a student to enroll in a private school and be eligible for athletics?

What exactly should be the outer most geographical limit for a student to enroll in a private school and be eligible for athletics?

 

I bet the answer to that one is going to be none.

B. False. The enrollments at X and T are so high largely because they recruit from several counties, even outside Kentucky in some cases.

Both these schools get a large number of applicants, I doubt if they turned away everyone outside of Jefferson Co that they would have any trouble filling those spots.

I bet the answer to that one is going to be none.

As a public school person I'm going to have to agree with that. I understand the desire to keep kids within a tax area to attend schools in that same tax area, but if the school is privately funded I don't see why any boundaries are needed. Schools don't own kids.