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My Gripe With The Pro-Life Community

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Quick question for the Pro Life crew, how do you feel on Euthanasia (LBBC, you knew this was coming, didn't you? :D)? I assume you have to be 100% against it, right?

Against it. I have mixed feelings about assisted suicide.

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Quick question for the Pro Life crew, how do you feel on Euthanasia (LBBC, you knew this was coming, didn't you? :D)? I assume you have to be 100% against it, right?

 

I would say start a new thread so this doesn't get too off-topic and I would need a specific definition. I have no problem with turning the machines off. Is that considered euthanasia?

Not saying it is not, but why is that relevant?

 

Seems like it is the old Charles Durning Political two-step from the best little house in texas routine. Intead of addressing the issue, we talk about how bad the Christians are.

 

Somewhere in this debate I have lost the reasoning behind this point.

 

Isn't the title of THIS thread "my gripe with the Pro-Life Community?"

 

The issue is NOT abortion. The issue/debate is with the hardliners.

Isn't the title of THIS thread "my gripe with the Pro-Life Community?"

 

The issue is NOT abortion. The issue/debate is with the hardliners.

 

Gotcha.

Euthanasia is a tough one for me. I mean, who was playing God? The people who wanted to remove Terri Schiavo's feeding tube, or the doctor who put her on life support to begin with?:confused: I think the pro-life issue is full of gray areas like euthanasia, capital punishment, stem-cell research, fertility treatments, etc.

Who said anything about it being logical? Many bad decisions are made when one is irrational and illogical - just like the girl who has an abortion because of the real or perceived disapproval from her fellow sinners.

Agree, but you throw the hypocrite under the bus as the source for the decision to abort in the first place. There's no doubt that many despise the hypocrisy in the church, and there are many who may not attend because of it, however, I can't see the correlation between that and ultimately terminating a fetus. My guess is that a large # if not a majority of women who have abortions seldom darken the church doors. If that's true, I highly doubt that they are worried if Sister Gladys is looking down her nose at her.

My guess is that a large # if not a majority of women who have abortions seldom darken the church doors.

 

Wow. What an unbelievably bitter assumption. For the record, I know more bad people that attend church than I can shake a stick at; "darken(ing) the church doors" doesn't make you any better a person.

My guess is that a large # if not a majority of women who have abortions seldom darken the church doors. If that's true, I highly doubt that they are worried if Sister Gladys is looking down her nose at her.

 

Wow, so you're saying there's a direct correlation between not going to church and having an abortion? Who knew.

Wow, so you're saying there's a direct correlation between not going to church and having an abortion? Who knew.

 

He did not post that. By direct correlation you are meaning that a cause of the abortions is not going to church. He did not say that.

 

Simply said that he would guess that a person who would choose an abortion probably is not normally attending church on Sunday morning.

 

Just like a person who goes out and gets drunk and beats his wife is not normally going to be going to church on Sunday morning.

 

Yep, sometimes they are, but Spin indicated that mostly they would not be.

 

And yeah, they sit down in the pews after beating their wife and probably receive disapproving looks. I guess that is bad of us.:rolleyes: and we should not say anything disapproving of them in beating their wives cause that whole casting stone issue.

Simply said that he would guess that a person who would choose an abortion probably is not normally attending church on Sunday morning.

 

Just like a person who goes out and gets drunk and beats his wife is not normally going to be going to church on Sunday morning.

 

 

Oh my. So having an Abortion means that a person is more likely to be un-Christian? Or less of a Christian than the hypocrite that goes to Church every Sunday and is cheating on his wife every Saturday? How unbelievably offensive.

 

I can't believe the "view it my way or your less of a Christian than I am" approach. LBBC, really, it is unreal.

He did not post that. By direct correlation you are meaning that a cause of the abortions is not going to church. He did not say that.

 

Correlation means there is a relationship and not that one causes the other.

 

Simply said that he would guess that a person who would choose an abortion probably is not normally attending church on Sunday morning.

 

Correlation.

Oh my. So having an Abortion means that a person is more likely to be un-Christian? Or less of a Christian than the hypocrite that goes to Church every Sunday and is cheating on his wife every Saturday? How unbelievably offensive.

 

I can't believe the "view it my way or your less of a Christian than I am" approach. LBBC, really, it is unreal.

 

I never said nor Spindoc said anything like what you are posting and insinuating that I am posting.

 

There are a lot of people who attend church every Sunday that if the Rapture occurred RIGHT NOW, would be left behind. I just pray that I am not one of them.

 

I am sorry, that is me being a judgemental Christian again and posting that some going to church are not really Christians. Of course, you weren't being a judgemental Christian by doing that, were you?;)

My guess is that a large # if not a majority of women who have abortions seldom darken the church doors.

I think this is a reasonable correlation if for no other reason than churches speak out against abortion.

Correlation means there is a relationship and not that one causes the other.

 

 

 

Correlation.

 

I thought that you meant by DIRECT that one was the cause of the other. Thanks for clarifying.

And yeah, they sit down in the pews after beating their wife and probably receive disapproving looks. I guess that is bad of us.:rolleyes: and we should not say anything disapproving of them in beating their wives cause that whole casting stone issue.

 

 

The sin can be acknowledged without passing judgment and without speaking in a derogatory manner.

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