March 30, 200719 yr Only can say positive things. http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070330/COL03/703300359 Hey, battuh-battuh. Please swing if it makes you feel good about yourself! The Knothole Club of Greater Cincinnati has decided to eliminate "chatter." Unless the chatter is "positive" and directed at your own team. You can't say "We want a pitcher, not an underwear stitcher!" unless, maybe, you grew up in a culture that idolizes underwear stitchers. Standings for the Feelgood Division of the Self Esteem League will be available any time now. "We didn't want Knothole to get a bad name for anything," Knothole president Dave Epplen explained. "If you're saying, 'Swing, batter,' and this poor little kid is swinging at everything, he feels bad and maybe he turns to the catcher and gets mad. Honest to gosh, I didn't have any trouble doing this." Knothole follows the Rules of Major League Baseball. Rule 4.06(a)(2) states, "No manager, player, substitute, coach, trainer or batboy shall at any time, whether from the bench, the coach's box or on the playing field or elsewhere, use language which will in any manner refer to or reflect upon opposing players, an umpire, or any spectator." Coaches and players found guilty of "negative" chatter will be warned once, then suspended for a game. Maybe they'll be sentenced to watching "Oprah" for a month, too. "We're going to follow the rule as it's written," Jim Pecot, umpire coordinator for District 34, said. Being involved in Little League but not Knothole, I have ZERO problem with this. No need for a parent or anyone yelling smack to a 10 year old kid.
March 30, 200719 yr "We didn't want Knothole to get a bad name for anything," Knothole president Dave Epplen explained. With a name like "Knothole", they're worried about getting a bad name?! :confused: :lol:
March 30, 200719 yr Hope this rule doesn't extend to casual golf with friends. The usual suspects that make up our foursome make the guys in Caddyshack look like choirboys.
March 30, 200719 yr I heard this today on Bob and Tom also. I didn't realize where the term 'Knothole' came from. (if it's true)
March 30, 200719 yr With a name like "Knothole", they're worried about getting a bad name?! :confused: :lol: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
March 30, 200719 yr What's next? No raggin' on your opponent in a Cornhole tournament? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Doc, you and Bluto just won the bgp prize for comments on this thread. :thumb: :thumb:
March 30, 200719 yr Does this extend to coaches not agreeing with the umps, when the umps know they're wrong and the coach know's he's right, and vice versa?
March 30, 200719 yr Author Does this extend to coaches not agreeing with the umps, when the umps know they're wrong and the coach know's he's right, and vice versa? Last fall as an assistant, I disagreed with a call and was firmly told that the ump would ONLY discuss it with the head coach. If I wanted to stay in the park, I would let the head coach discuss it with the ump. In the LL meeting, last season, they said the police were called three times to remove parents who had been expressing their displeasure with a call and then refused to leave the park.
March 30, 200719 yr Last fall as an assistant, I disagreed with a call and was firmly told that the ump would ONLY discuss it with the head coach. If I wanted to stay in the park, I would let the head coach discuss it with the ump. In the LL meeting, last season, they said the police were called three times to remove parents who had been expressing their displeasure with a call and then refused to leave the park. I can see a parent or fan being removed if they're cursing or getting to be really angry. Just speaking against a call once or twice during a game is OK, IMO.
March 30, 200719 yr Author I can see a parent or fan being removed if they're cursing or getting to be really angry. Just speaking against a call once or twice during a game is OK, IMO. If mom and dad can do it from the stands, why can the players not do it? Or are you saying that it is okay for 8-9-10 year olds to yell and argue with the umps. Kids DO NOT get the it is okay for an adult to do it but not okay for a kid to do it point. They see if mom and dad can do it, it is okay for me to do it.
March 30, 200719 yr If mom and dad can do it from the stands, why can the players not do it? Or are you saying that it is okay for 8-9-10 year olds to yell and argue with the umps. Kids DO NOT get the it is okay for an adult to do it but not okay for a kid to do it point. They see if mom and dad can do it, it is okay for me to do it. I believe that all kids should show respect, no matter what. Let the coach handle the call. I have seen boys on the high school level to question a call, but not in an dis-respectful manner. My boys always let the coach handle a bad call. The only thing they gave the ump was a look. That's it.
March 30, 200719 yr I heard this today on Bob and Tom also. I didn't realize where the term 'Knothole' came from. (if it's true) Was the story regarding looking through the knothole in the outfield wall?
March 30, 200719 yr Was the story regarding looking through the knothole in the outfield wall?That's where knothole baseball came from. Kids were allowed to watch the MLB games by peeking through the knotholes in the fence around the park. Adults wern't.
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