That would be illegal. If so, please share, or else this is a violation of BGP.

Thanks. It has been shared with the fine folks on Executive Drive and the kid no longer attends that school. The tuition ran out when important people began asking questions. Of course, no sanctions were handed down because the player never played above the JV level. No harm, no private school foul I guess.

Scooterbob is still reeling because Rose Hills great recruits OJ and Bill got recruited out from under them. By the way Bob ole Boy, where exactly did OJ and Bill live anyway, in what district. Like you want eveyone else to, please be specific. Thanks in advance for a truthful answer without any spin.

 

 

I am sure you will get no response.

 

If they lived with their parents, they would live in West Huntington.

 

 

OJ is Bob's hero.

Thanks. It has been shared with the fine folks on Executive Drive and the kid no longer attends that school. The tuition ran out when important people began asking questions. Of course, no sanctions were handed down because the player never played above the JV level. No harm, no private school foul I guess.

WOW! Are you telling us that the system worked? That is good news.

Private schools have the ability to "lure" students from outside a given area. Certain schools in this state have students from as many as 12 different counties and three different states. So, how is that fair to the public schools who have a designated area from which they draw students?

 

Argue all you like and rationalize it any way you want, those are not fair ground rules and it will not change as long as the KHSAA doesn't want it to. The member schools made their opinions known and that didn't work out too well. That tells me all I need to know.

 

I'm not saying anything about LCA in particular, but private schools as a group have a distinct advantage in enrolling students.

 

Bro, that's the public school's choice. I'm a public school guy but this as an excuse is ridiculous, IMO. If your school district doesn't like it, open up the enrollment to outside the district. If they don't want to do that, quit complaining when others choose to...

Thanks. It has been shared with the fine folks on Executive Drive and the kid no longer attends that school. The tuition ran out when important people began asking questions. Of course, no sanctions were handed down because the player never played above the JV level. No harm, no private school foul I guess.

What school broke the rules? The KHSAA let them get away with it? Why would it matter if it were varsity or JV? What school does the kid attend now? This sounds like one of those characters that writers make up to write a juicy story. Give us some facts. Thanks.

Scooterbob is still reeling because Rose Hills great recruits OJ and Bill got recruited out from under them. By the way Bob ole Boy, where exactly did OJ and Bill live anyway, in what district. Like you want eveyone else to, please be specific. Thanks in advance for a truthful answer without any spin.

 

Well, Heartbreaker, OJ lived and lives in the Burlington area of South Point, Ohio. Billy lived in Huntington, West Virginia. Since Ashland is on the border of both states, the trip to Rose Hill was and is far less than that which is travelled by many Kentucky high school students every day. Both domiciles are well within the area from which Rose Hill, a private school with no political boundaries, attracts students. KHSAA was and is well aware of this fact and it is perfectly legal.

 

These facts don't, of course, serve to level that playing field for you. With all of that tax money that all of us reluctently pay, I would think that you publics could afford to level the field without "handicaps". In reality, life is not played on a level playing field and, sooner or later, those seeking handouts of all kinds should learn that fact. But, then, that will likely never happen. It is much easier to play the victim.

 

By the way, I'm still waiting on some facts from Claude.

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Regarding any advantage is that the privates have, the question is-what is the advantage?

Fletch suggests that the privates are paying the tuition for their athletes. Rock Pride pointed out, correctly, that this would be illegal if it occurred. I have never understood Fletch's argument. What if every private school athlete in every sport was permitted to attend school without having to pay any tuition? This would merely level the playing field. Private school athletes would then be paying the exact same tuition as public school athletes- $0.

Claude Henry Smmoott and Jay Bilas suggest that the private’s advantage comes from the fact that they take students from various counties surrounding their school by "luring" students to their school. Mr. Smmoott asserts that “I will continue rooting for my favorite teams and hope something or someone comes along and makes everyone play by the same set of rules." Guru has addressed this argument a number of times. There is no KHSAA rule against drawling students from various areas. As Guru has noted, much more succinctly, if one voluntarily chooses to self impose restrictions on oneself over and above the rules, one should not complain when others do not adhere to those self-imposed rules.

Finally, as to Jay Bilas assertion that we all know that the privates have the money, I share LSURock’s astonishment. The government pays for public schools. Every penny for private schools comes from the pocket of private school supporters. If public school supporters merely supported their schools with a fraction of what private school supporters support their schools with, the public’s financial advantage over the privates would be staggering. Again, one should not blame a competitor for working harder than he works. If private schools really have more money, why are private schools teachers paid less than public school teachers and why do they have fewer benefits? Indeed, often private schools have inferior facilities than public schools. As an example, look at Jefferson County area private schools. DeSales and St. Xavier have never had football stadiums. To my knowledge, every public school in Jefferson County that plays football has their own stadium.

I try to be open-minded about these issues. However, it is frustrating when I see the above excuses propounded over and over again by apologists for public schools when an examination of these excuses proves them to be false. So far, the only argument that I have heard from the public school proponents that seems irrefutable is the numerical advantage that St. Xavier and Trinity have over other schools in boys athletics, and even that advantage has been little, if any help to them in certain sports, such as basketball.

Regarding any advantage is that the privates have, the question is-what is the advantage?

Fletch suggests that the privates are paying the tuition for their athletes. Rock Pride pointed out, correctly, that this would be illegal if it occurred. I have never understood Fletch's argument. What if every private school athlete in every sport was permitted to attend school without having to pay any tuition? This would merely level the playing field. Private school athletes would then be paying the exact same tuition as public school athletes- $0.

Claude Henry Smmoott and Jay Bilas suggest that the private’s advantage comes from the fact that they take students from various counties surrounding their school by "luring" students to their school. Mr. Smmoott asserts that “I will continue rooting for my favorite teams and hope something or someone comes along and makes everyone play by the same set of rules." Guru has addressed this argument a number of times. There is no KHSAA rule against drawling students from various areas. As Guru has noted, much more succinctly, if one voluntarily chooses to self impose restrictions on oneself over and above the rules, one should not complain when others do not adhere to those self-imposed rules.

Finally, as to Jay Bilas assertion that we all know that the privates have the money, I share LSURock’s astonishment. The government pays for public schools. Every penny for private schools comes from the pocket of private school supporters. If public school supporters merely supported their schools with a fraction of what private school supporters support their schools with, the public’s financial advantage over the privates would be staggering. Again, one should not blame a competitor for working harder than he works. If private schools really have more money, why are private schools teachers paid less than public school teachers and why do they have fewer benefits? Indeed, often private schools have inferior facilities than public schools. As an example, look at Jefferson County area private schools. DeSales and St. Xavier have never had football stadiums. To my knowledge, every public school in Jefferson County that plays football has their own stadium.

I try to be open-minded about these issues. However, it is frustrating when I see the above excuses propounded over and over again by apologists for public schools when an examination of these excuses proves them to be false. So far, the only argument that I have heard from the public school proponents that seems irrefutable is the numerical advantage that St. Xavier and Trinity have over other schools in boys athletics, and even that advantage has been little, if any help to them in certain sports, such as basketball.

 

 

Nice respone D!

Sticky, you have to be proud. 39 posts and I haven't posted a single thing.

Guru has addressed this argument a number of times. There is no KHSAA rule against drawling students from various areas. As Guru has noted, much more succinctly, if one voluntarily chooses to self impose restrictions on oneself over and above the rules, one should not complain when others do not adhere to those self-imposed rules.

Good post overall, but this argument is a crutch for the privates. While in large urban areas, yes, open enrollment would help level the playing field, in rural areas it would mean diddly and squat.

 

Rural school systems could have closed or open enrollment and it wouldn't affect their abilities to compete against urban or private schools.

 

Look at the private schools having success. Where are they from. Urban areas. Put a private school in Robertson County and see if they are competing for regional and state titles. Not going to happen.

 

There are many facets to this argument.....

there is one that is the urban publics vs. the urban privates.

there is one of the rural publics vs. the urban privates

there is one of the rural publics vs. the urban publics.

 

Classing is the best answer with class separations based on a combination of size and open enrollment.

and we all know privates have the $$$$$.

This is one of the funniest things I've read on BGP in a long time. :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

I don't know about the big boys, but I do know that one of Jay's small neighbors would love to have half the budget his favorite public school receives from local, state and federal funding.

 

When public school supporters provide an option for private school supporters to "opt out" of paying tax dollars to fund public schools, you'll have an argument. Until then, this is nothing but spin and excuses...

Sticky, you have to be proud. 39 posts and I haven't posted a single thing.

 

 

Well that didn't last long!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

and we all know privates have the $$$$$.

 

 

Everytime I see/hear this type of comment..I want to bust out into this song!

 

check it out, i'm the c-a-s-an-the-o-v-a

and the rest is f-l-y

ya see i go by the code of the doctor of the mix

and these reasons i'll tell ya why

ya see i'm six foot one and i'm tons of fun

and i dress to a t

ya see i got more clothes than muhammad ali and i dress so viciously

i got bodyguards, i got two big cars

that definitely aint the wack

i got a lincoln continental and a sunroof cadillac

so after school, i take a dip in the pool

which really is on the wall

i got a color tv so i can see

the knicks play basketball

hear me talkin bout checkbooks, credit cards

more money than a sucker could ever spend

 

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Sticky, you have to be proud. 39 posts and I haven't posted a single thing.

 

I was more impressed that it almost took 17 hours...