March 12, 200719 yr Author I would say I went more and I probably spent more money. I would go there probably once a week (or every other week) if you could smoke. I don't really miss the place that much. I did enjoy half price chicken wings though. I am sure that you go more often than I presently do since it is much closer to you than me. I just received a $25 dollar gift certificate for Applebee's. I bet though I have been more over my lifetime. MY #1 favorite eating out meal is chicken wings and basket of fries with honey mustard dressing and iced tea. BM, (that is before marriage), I would eat there 2-4 times per week. LOVED it.
March 12, 200719 yr I am sure that you go more often than I presently do since it is much closer to you than me. I just received a $25 dollar gift certificate for Applebee's. I bet though I have been more over my lifetime. MY #1 favorite eating out meal is chicken wings and basket of fries with honey mustard dressing and iced tea. BM, (that is before marriage), I would eat there 2-4 times per week. LOVED it. I used to go there a few times a week. We'd go to BW3's, Applebee's, and Barleycorn's all the time. I don't go out as much anymore, but Applebee's is real close and has a great happy hour. However, Friday's is right next door, has a great HH and I can smoke.
March 12, 200719 yr 1. I'm all for the ban. 2. I'd ban beer as well (and I'm a beer drinker). 3. This will have zero impact financially on the Reds (postively or negatively). 4. I'd make fat people buy 2 tickets. It ruins the experience for those that have to "share" their own seat with them. 5. I don't think baseball fans that smoke will stay away from GABP. 6. Smoking sections in restaurants are a joke. They do not work. Hats off to Applebees.
March 12, 200719 yr So we as a society should trample over a small group of people to help another small group of people do things that they can do on their own? I'm not saying let people smoke everywhere, but that if you have reasonable and well designated smoking areas you won't have this problem so people who don't want to be around smoke can just avoid an area and those who do know what seats to buy or area to go to. I retract my other statement about Great American. It is a ballpark which is privately owned by Hamilton County, the city of Cincinnati, or the Reds (I don't know which, and frankly it doesn't matter), seeing that it is privately owned, it is not the same a normal park or a sidewalk in that they have the capacity to refuse entrance or remove occupants so the new law about no smoking in public places does not affect them.
March 12, 200719 yr Unfortunately, for some of us, that isn't the case. It's not just a long-term hazzard; but an immediate one.I understand what you're saying. For me, I get headaches when I'm around cigarrette smoke. I wish we could get rid of it completely and I have no problem with the Reds decision. I just don't want the govenment making that decision for us.
March 12, 200719 yr Author I understand what you're saying. For me, I get headaches when I'm around cigarrette smoke. I wish we could get rid of it completely and I have no problem with the Reds decision. I just don't want the govenment making that decision for us. Government didn't. Voters did. What is wrong with the democratic process of majority rules in this country? It was put up to a vote and the voters decided.
March 12, 200719 yr My daughter's allergic. Around smoke and within minutes she cannot breathe. Walking through a group of smokers and she would begin to be stopped up. I have a similar problem.
March 12, 200719 yr It is a ballpark which is privately owned by Hamilton County, the city of Cincinnati, or the Reds (I don't know which, and frankly it doesn't matter), seeing that it is privately owned, it is not the same a normal park or a sidewalk in that they have the capacity to refuse entrance or remove occupants so the new law about no smoking in public places does not affect them.There's no such thing as a government entity "privately" owning something. Therefore, as a public space by definition, it is effected by the new law.
March 12, 200719 yr As a smoker I will not attend any games at GABP. I can understand that they have no choice in not allowing smoking inside the ballpark, but why couldn’t I walk outside and re-enter the park? The Reds will find out that they will lose revenue and make some changes to their policy. In the meantime I will go watch the Florence Freedom play. The beer and food is about 1/4 the cost as GABP. I will watch the Reds on TV.
March 12, 200719 yr So we as a society should trample over a small group of people to help another small group of people do things that they can do on their own? I'm not saying let people smoke everywhere, but that if you have reasonable and well designated smoking areas you won't have this problem so people who don't want to be around smoke can just avoid an area and those who do know what seats to buy or area to go to. . All this is about is a business setting policies for their customers. The government has no role in this.
March 12, 200719 yr The Reds will find out that they will lose revenue and make some changes to their policy. In the meantime I will go watch the . While we will not know if this is true,I am betting that any increase or decrease in revenue as result of this one rule are minimal.
March 12, 200719 yr While we will not know if this is true,I am betting that any increase or decrease in revenue as result of this one rule are minimal. I think it will be a lot more than "minimal". Bar's that enforce the ban in Ohio have lost 40% of their business. http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070311/COL05/703110333/-1/back01
March 12, 200719 yr Author I think it will be a lot more than "minimal". Bar's that enforce the ban in Ohio have lost 40% of their business. http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070311/COL05/703110333/-1/back01 I think people go to Reds games for alot more different reasons than go to bars.
March 12, 200719 yr I think it will be a lot more than "minimal". Bar's that enforce the ban in Ohio have lost 40% of their business. http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070311/COL05/703110333/-1/back01 The Reds drew 2,135,417 in 2006. If they draw one less than that you can try and make a case, however, I would think you're going to have a tough sell. I would think more Reds' fans would ignore the ban and try smoking (and risk penalty) than will simply boycott them because they are following the laws set forth by the voting public. My prediction is the Reds still draw over 2,000,000 and the lack of smoking at GABP will amount to a lot of nothing.
March 12, 200719 yr I think people go to Reds games for alot more different reasons than go to bars. The people that wait in line at the concession stand for $6.50 beer, it's the exact same reason. It's a night out. I'm not saying that the Reds revenue will go down 40%, but the Reds can't afford any revenue decrease. Go to any bar in the area, if the Reds are on TV, they have it on at the bar too and that's where the smokers will be. I will venture to bet that the smokers who will not go to a game is much greater than the non-smokers who will now go because of the smoking ban.
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