While we will not know if this is true,I am betting that any increase or decrease in revenue as result of this one rule are minimal.

I think they'll see a net increase in revenues, if anything at all.

First and foremost attendance is dictated by the product on the field. If the product isn’t any good the people will not come. Second, neither the Reds nor any other sports franchise is totally consumed by their attendance number. If they were, we would always have ½ price tickets and $1.00 hot dogs. They want to attract people who spend more money once they get inside, hence the $6.50 beer. Now if you can remember seeing the retched second class citizens (like myself) in the smoking area, you will remember seeing all of those $6.50 beers in the hand that wasn’t holding the toxic candy stick that frighten and horrify so many people.. The hand holding the $6.50 beer is the hand that the Red’s will miss, thus reducing their overall revenue. That is why I think they will eventually change their policy and let us retched second class citizens go outside the gates and get our nicotine fix and then re-enter the ballpark to buy another $6.50 beer (as long as we return before middle of the 7th inning).

That is why I think they will eventually change their policy and let us retched second class citizens go outside the gates and get our nicotine fix and then re-enter the ballpark to buy another $6.50 beer (as long as we return before middle of the 7th inning).

 

They can't change the policy at Great American, it is now the law.

They can't change the policy at Great American, it is now the law.

All they need to do is let me go outside the gates and re-enter. That's all I want! PBS let me do it for Bengals games. Also, this is NOT law, it is an oponion by the Hamilton County Prosecutors Office. The law is very vague about open air spaces like sports stadiums

All this is about is a business setting policies for their customers. The government has no role in this.

That's not true. The Reds consulted with their attorneys, and based upon the recent law change, felt they had no choice but to ban smoking.

That's not true. The Reds consulted with their attorneys, and based upon the recent law change, felt they had no choice but to ban smoking.

The Reds had already limited smoking before the law was ever suggested. I don't think they're too upset about it.

As a smoker, I will not be back to the Red's stadium OR Paul Brown Stadium. I have a better view and a less expensive evening at Barleycorn's. I also know that there are many who share this opinion. I hated going into Cincinnati before the smoking ban because of taxes, safety concerns, and traffic but I refuse to go there unless absolutely necessary now. I do think that smoking in the stands should be banned but for love of Pete, outside of the stadium is not an unreasonable request.

As a smoker I feel I have a thought or two on this subject. I don't think, as a smoker, that I have the right to sit in a stadium, an eating establishment, or any public spot and smoke. I have no idea who is around me and who might be in danger (health wise) if I light up around them. That is the main reason that I refuse to smoke around people. As a smoker, I can't sit anywhere and try to eat when someone around me is smoking one cig after the other. As a smoker, I can't stand to walk into a hotel and the room reek so bad of smoke that it chokes me. As a smoker do I have rights? Why of course I do. I have the right not to smoke around people in the public!

I do think that smoking in the stands should be banned but for love of Pete, outside of the stadium is not an unreasonable request.

The current ban doesn't have anything to do with the outside of the stadium -- only the public gathering areas -- which is perfectly reasonable.

The current ban doesn't have anything to do with the outside of the stadium -- only the public gathering areas -- which is perfectly reasonable.

That is absolutely true. Walking to the car after Thursday's game was like walking through an ashtray the whole way there.

 

People were lighting up and blowing smoke everywhere on the escalator down and the whole way to the parking lot.

I do have to point out that I am a light smoker...actually, more of a social smoker. I do not smoke in front of my kids and I don't smoke at home at all. I will smoke if I have a beer. My issue isn't so much of not being ABLE to smoke as it is the fact that I can't believe that we as Americans are actually voting to TAKE AWAY rights. Yes, non-smokers have the right to breathe clean air but taking over the entire stadium isn't giving the smokers the right to enjoy a cigarette during a game. NO....it should not be permitted where non-smokers are and YES, by all means, quarantine us to some section where no one has to pass through unless they CHOOSE to.

 

It is just so perplexing to me to see rights and freedoms being taken away a little bit at a time and not many are even noticing it. Since 9/11, the government has been playing on our fear to strip away even more rights. Check out the Patriot Act sometime (I mean REALLY check it out). Yes, we should be able to protect ourselves but at what cost? Okay, that was a huge tangent. I guess I'm just trying to get across the point that smoking is just another freedom that is being taken away.

That is absolutely true. Walking to the car after Thursday's game was like walking through an ashtray the whole way there.

 

People were lighting up and blowing smoke everywhere on the escalator down and the whole way to the parking lot.

Yuck! I can't stand people that don't think of others!

 

Now that's not a blanket indictment of all smokers -- just the discourteous ones that don't care what they spread around to everyone nearby.

The ones I want to throttle are those who empty their ashtrays in the street.

Very good points made by all....

 

Discourteous smokers are definitely a big part of what makes the courteous smokers arguments more difficult to present. Hey, I don't blame you for not wanting to breathe in the smoke. I guess I just have a hard time with making blanket judgements.

I have smoked for years...however,when I go out to dinner,even where I can smoke I don't..because I know it bothers other people..

However,I KNOW LONGER AND NEVER WILL...have dinner anywhere in Lexington...just because they have banned it. I have not eaten at Applebeas since they banned it..WHY...because it is the principle of the matter. They have a choice to ban smoking...I have a choice where to spend my money!!! And it won't be anywhere in Lexington,Applebeas or anywhere else that legislates my actions!!

And I am perfectly capable of fixing a meal at home!!!

Love the Reds...won't be there anytime soon!!