Hearing there will be an announcement on Monday.

Hearing that decision has been made and it will not be a surprise.

I have no idea if this is true or not but I had someone tell me they believed the new hire is a Coach from Indiana with head coaching experience. 

Anyone?

5 hours ago, New Colonel said:

 

Well aware, but your info isn't all the way correct. Ohio is is actually 32 years currently for full retirement, with a goal of lowering it to 30 years for full pension.  While it's 5 additional years, when you combine that with the much higher pay, and the higher payout percentage (for earliest full pension), Ohio teachers come out way on top again.  They come out on top with much, much higher lifetime earnings, and higher retirement pension payments.

 

And everywhere is a difficult gig teaching anymore, whether it's CPS, the affluent Ohio districts, or anywhere in the Commonwealth.  More and more workload keeps getting piled on teachers, benefits keep getting stripped away little by little.  While nobody gets into the field expecting to be indpendently wealthy, the benefits used to make it worthwhile (Insurance benefits especially), but those expenses,  like everyone's are becoming more and more expensive.  And it's just not worth it anymore, which is why everyone is leaving as soon as possible 27 or 32 years in their respective states.  And even more telling is that the average new teacher quits the profession altogether in less than 4 years.  Something is really wrong, but instead of actually fixing the problem, states like KY and OH are making it easier to become a teacher, which is angering a lot of veteran teachers because it makes it seem like the job isn't taken seriously and the credentials they worked hard to get aren't important anymore. Those of you with kids in school better pay attention to who is teaching your kids, because next year, it may not even be someone with a traditional credentials. 

Wait?!!?? How is KY making it easier to become a teacher? 

I have also been told Chase Floyd was offered & accepted the job yesterday but I cannot confirm that.

Anyone?

26 minutes ago, theguru said:

I have also been told Chase Floyd was offered & accepted the job yesterday but I cannot confirm that.

Anyone?

Winner winner chicken dinner per my sources.

28 minutes ago, theguru said:

I have also been told Chase Floyd was offered & accepted the job yesterday but I cannot confirm that.

Anyone?

Also hearing this….

2 hours ago, BrosefStalin said:

Wait?!!?? How is KY making it easier to become a teacher? 

Look up alternate pathways to teaching and/or the apprenticeship program.  You can get hired to teach with 0 experience and 0 classes in teaching right now.  Ohio and lots of other states are doing similar.  

13 hours ago, New Colonel said:

Look up alternate pathways to teaching and/or the apprenticeship program.  You can get hired to teach with 0 experience and 0 classes in teaching right now.  Ohio and lots of other states are doing similar.  

100%. Most schools likely have at least a few (if not more) teaching on an emergency certificate. You really don't need any experience or even a degree in education (although a degree is needed). There just aren't enough certified teachers available to fill all the spots.

19 minutes ago, rjs4470 said:

There just aren't enough certified teachers available to fill all the spots

There are plenty of certified teachers to fill the spots.  They are leaving the field in droves or never using their teaching certificate.  In greater Cincinnati area you have NKU, Thomas More, MSJ, UC, XU, and Miami all with teaching programs that are pumping out a lot of teachers each year.  There is not a shortage certified teachers.  There is a shortage of those that are certified wanting to go into the field or stay in the field.  But that's a different topic altogether.  

 

Best of luck to Coach Floyd and the Cougars moving forward!  This could become a great job.

14 hours ago, New Colonel said:

Look up alternate pathways to teaching and/or the apprenticeship program.  You can get hired to teach with 0 experience and 0 classes in teaching right now.  Ohio and lots of other states are doing similar.  

But saying to "watch out because your child may be taught by someone with non-traditional certifications" is a lazy generalization. Teacher quality can’t be judged by certification route. Certification path doesn’t determine teacher quality....classroom effectiveness does. Alternate-route teachers meet the same licensing standards and are evaluated the same way

Alternate certification programs still require teachers to meet state standards, pass the same content exams, complete pedagogy training, and undergo classroom evaluations. The credential at the end is the same license issued by the state—not a watered-down version.

Your argument misses the fact that while those alternate pathway educators may not have "traditional" training, they actually do bring strengths the "trad" folks don't have like deeper content knowledge, real world experience and, in most cases, intensive mentoring and supervised teaching while actively in the classroom rather than theoretical coursework up front. After the first year or two, student outcomes for alternate-route and traditionally trained teachers are statistically similar.

Traditional programs emphasize theory first; alternate pathways emphasize practice under supervision. These are different models - not different standards. If alternate-route teachers were truly “unqualified,” they wouldn’t be licensed by the state, valuated under the same performance frameworks, be renewed, tenured, or retained based on student outcomes. 

Truth be told, in some of the schools my children attend/have attended, some of the BEST, most effective content teachers and best at seeing/taking care of/understanding children are non-trad pathway takers. 

 

1 hour ago, BrosefStalin said:

But saying to "watch out because your child may be taught by someone with non-traditional certifications" is a lazy generalization. Teacher quality can’t be judged by certification route. Certification path doesn’t determine teacher quality....classroom effectiveness does. Alternate-route teachers meet the same licensing standards and are evaluated the same way

Alternate certification programs still require teachers to meet state standards, pass the same content exams, complete pedagogy training, and undergo classroom evaluations. The credential at the end is the same license issued by the state—not a watered-down version.

Your argument misses the fact that while those alternate pathway educators may not have "traditional" training, they actually do bring strengths the "trad" folks don't have like deeper content knowledge, real world experience and, in most cases, intensive mentoring and supervised teaching while actively in the classroom rather than theoretical coursework up front. After the first year or two, student outcomes for alternate-route and traditionally trained teachers are statistically similar.

Traditional programs emphasize theory first; alternate pathways emphasize practice under supervision. These are different models - not different standards. If alternate-route teachers were truly “unqualified,” they wouldn’t be licensed by the state, valuated under the same performance frameworks, be renewed, tenured, or retained based on student outcomes. 

Truth be told, in some of the schools my children attend/have attended, some of the BEST, most effective content teachers and best at seeing/taking care of/understanding children are non-trad pathway takers. 

 

What you say is not quite true.  You could get your 1 year emergency teaching credential with ZERO education background, training, or classes.  And after that 1 year, if the districts recommends, you get a full professional teaching certificate.  That sounds extremely watered down to me, but I'm not a legal expert.

Back to Conner and the upcoming season.

3 minutes ago, New Colonel said:

What you say is not quite true.  You could get your 1 year emergency teaching credential with ZERO education background, training, or classes.  And after that 1 year, if the districts recommends, you get a full professional teaching certificate.  That sounds extremely watered down to me, but I'm not a legal expert.

Back to Conner and the upcoming season.

You do, of course, realize that VERY few schools - barring severe staffing emergency - choose to go that route and instead choose to, instead, require those alternate pathway seekers to be provisionally certified?

Emergency certs are less than 1% of all certifications in KY dating back to 2023. While provisional certification numbers were as high as 23.4%? You see the difference here? Being as fully well versed as you are in the states cert processes, you, of course, realize the differences in what each require. 

But yes, I agree, back to Conner and the upcoming season - just wanted to clarify your whiffs. Good luck Coach Floyd and the Cougars!

Conner High School football names new head coach

Chase Floyd has been elevated to the head coaching position based on this Enquirer article and other sources.

9 minutes ago, DTRaider said:

Conner High School football names new head coach

Chase Floyd has been elevated to the head coaching position based on this Enquirer article and other sources.

Well earned and well deserved! Chase will do an excellent job as he is well qualified. Glad to see Coach Trosper's image come to fruition.