Swagu says Davonte Adams moved on from one of the top five QBs of all time, and he is correct (because I say so). 

Who’s your Mount Rushmore plus one?

Brady, Montana, Manning, Graham, and Unitas.

Without me putting much thought into it, Rodgers would probably be around #10 for me. 

1 Brady

2 Manning

3 Montana

4 Rodgers

5 Marino

In  no particular order.  Brady, Unitas, Rodgers, Montana, Manning.

Fair or not, I have a hard time elevating Rodgers into the upper echelon due to his lack of post-season success. He has as many Super Bowl appearances as Rex Grossman. I mean, I get it isn't easy, but you at least need to make multiple Super Bowl appearances. Looking at numbers doesn't fully paint the picture since numbers are skewed. I simply evaluate against the era these QBs played in. Rodgers played the bulk of his career in the Brady/Manning era and to me is a distant third to those guys.

Tom Brady

Joe Montana 

Peyton Manning 

Drew Brees

Johnny Unitas

1) Unitas

2) Montana

3) Brady

4) Manning

5) Staubach

Hmm....so difficult with eras and such.  I will focus on my life-time for my list, and spoiler alert, Rodgers won't be on it.

1.  Brady

2.  Montana

3.  Manning

4.  Marino

5.  Elway

15 hours ago, Randy Parker said:

Tom Brady

Joe Montana 

Peyton Manning 

Drew Brees

Johnny Unitas

I'm glad that someone mentioned Drew Brees.  Is he really a top 5 QB? I'm not sure but I think he deserves to be in these conversations.

14 minutes ago, MJAlltheWay24 said:

I'm glad that someone mentioned Drew Brees.  Is he really a top 5 QB? I'm not sure but I think he deserves to be in these conversations.

It is hard to evaluate because the game has evolved so much with QBs and WRs being protected like they are, which subsequently allows for passing the ball twice as much as they used to. It is a different sport. Brees has also had a lot of clunkers and not near the W/L success as many people believe. Not sure many realize he only played in 10 post-seasons, despite having a 20 year career (really 19 when you remove his rookie year when he didn't play).

21 minutes ago, bugatti said:

It is hard to evaluate because the game has evolved so much with QBs and WRs being protected like they are, which subsequently allows for passing the ball twice as much as they used to. It is a different sport. Brees has also had a lot of clunkers and not near the W/L success as many people believe. Not sure many realize he only played in 10 post-seasons, despite having a 20 year career (really 19 when you remove his rookie year when he didn't play).

Yeah, for me QB ranking is always based more on statistics and the eye test than it is purely wins/losses.  They aren't on the field for over half the game when you add Special Teams, plus there are so many components that go into it.

Brady is great, don't get me wrong but how much of his success is because he had top defensive teams with a mastermind coach in Belicick.  Throw Brees into New England instead, is he now the greatest QB of all-time?  I don't know, maybe.

I'm not sure where I'd put Brees, but I think he should be included in the conversation when discussing the best QBs ever.

 

25 minutes ago, MJAlltheWay24 said:

Yeah, for me QB ranking is always based more on statistics and the eye test than it is purely wins/losses.  They aren't on the field for over half the game when you add Special Teams, plus there are so many components that go into it.

Brady is great, don't get me wrong but how much of his success is because he had top defensive teams with a mastermind coach in Belicick.  Throw Brees into New England instead, is he now the greatest QB of all-time?  I don't know, maybe.

I'm not sure where I'd put Brees, but I think he should be included in the conversation when discussing the best QBs ever.

 

Brees also had the benefit of playing with a pass happy coach in a controlled environment for at least nine games each season. And yeah, having the Pats defense as a driving force played a HUGE role in Brady's success... especially early on in his career. But by that rationale it doesn't benefit Brady's statistical case if he was protecting a lead as opposed to being in a shoot out or playing from behind. It is why I hate basing too much of the case on stats because they are skewed.

But yeah, he should definitely be in on the conversation as an all time great.

46 minutes ago, MJAlltheWay24 said:

Yeah, for me QB ranking is always based more on statistics and the eye test than it is purely wins/losses.  They aren't on the field for over half the game when you add Special Teams, plus there are so many components that go into it.

Brady is great, don't get me wrong but how much of his success is because he had top defensive teams with a mastermind coach in Belicick.  Throw Brees into New England instead, is he now the greatest QB of all-time?  I don't know, maybe.

I'm not sure where I'd put Brees, but I think he should be included in the conversation when discussing the best QBs ever.

 

I readily admit, rightly or wrongly, that Drew Brees never winning an NFL MVP award hurts him in my eyes.  Obviously a great player, and overcame a ton to have MONUMENTAL success, but crazy-high volume and never being an MVP exclude him from my Top 5.

Superbowl rings a factor?

1. Brady (7)

2. Montana (4)

3. Bradshaw (4)

4. Troy Aiken (3)

5. Payton Manning (2, 2 different teams)

 

 

 

 

 

Brady                
Unitas          
Elway      
Montana        
Namath 
              
To me, Unitas’ streak of 47 consecutive games with a touchdown pass is the greatest stat in NFL history. Remember, the streak happened from December 9, 1956 until December 4, 1960. He also tossed 110 TD passes during the streak.