53 minutes ago, TheDeuce said:

Juwan Howard reacted to Gard putting his hands on him, let’s make sure we’re clear on 

Seemed like everything was cool in the handshake line then he and the other start yelling at each other. 

Did the guy he hit put his hands on him to restrain him or in and aggressive manner? If the guy is just trying to keep people apart, then Juwan was wrong for hitting him. If the guy aggressively was hitting him then Juwan MAY survive this. 

Just putting your hands up to stop someone moving forward in a scuffle isn't grounds to be punched.

 

1 hour ago, TheDeuce said:

Juwan Howard reacted to Gard putting his hands on him, let’s make sure we’re clear on that. 

Ok just watched the video over again. He reached over another guy to punch the dude. That dude wasn't touching him and didn't seem to at any point, he sure wasn't close to touching him when Juwan swung on him.

Gard appears to put his hand on Howard to stop him moving forward, then Juwan grabs Gards shirt. They are the separated and Juwan swings at a completely different guy.

I don't doubt Juwan is saying that, the video just doesn't seem to show it to be true.

1 hour ago, TheDeuce said:

Post game hand shakes are stupid, especially when they are forced. The NBA and NFL do that right. If players want to stick around and chat with each other, fine. Forcing two teams to shake hands after a heated game is asking for trouble. It’s a miracle this doesn’t happen more. 

Let’s not forget that there are millions of young kids that watch these games that should see both teams at any level shake hands following competition as I’m sure they are asked to do after they participate in any athletic event.

5 minutes ago, nikeman49 said:

Let’s not forget that there are millions of young kids that watch these games that should see both teams at any level shake hands following competition as I’m sure they are asked to do after they participate in any athletic event.

 

20 minutes ago, nikeman49 said:

Let’s not forget that there are millions of young kids that watch these games that should see both teams at any level shake hands following competition as I’m sure they are asked to do after they participate in any athletic event.

Completely irrelevant. 

1 minute ago, TheDeuce said:

Completely irrelevant. 

Totally disagree with your analogy but that’s you.

1 hour ago, Jumper_Dad said:

Ok just watched the video over again. He reached over another guy to punch the dude. That dude wasn't touching him and didn't seem to at any point, he sure wasn't close to touching him when Juwan swung on him.

Gard appears to put his hand on Howard to stop him moving forward, then Juwan grabs Gards shirt. They are the separated and Juwan swings at a completely different guy.

I don't doubt Juwan is saying that, the video just doesn't seem to show it to be true.

It’s a bad look for Howard, no matter how you slice it. 

If he’s not stopped and provoked it likely doesn’t t happen. 

1 minute ago, nikeman49 said:

Totally disagree with your analogy but that’s you.

Parents are responsible for teaching their kids what’s wrong and right. If they are learning that from college/pro coaches and athletes, that’s a parenting issue. 

47 minutes ago, TheDeuce said:

It’s a bad look for Howard, no matter how you slice it. 

If he’s not stopped and provoked it likely doesn’t t happen. 

True.

46 minutes ago, TheDeuce said:

Parents are responsible for teaching their kids what’s wrong and right. If they are learning that from college/pro coaches and athletes, that’s a parenting issue. 

Once again, totally disagree with what you are saying as kids pay really close attention to their role models that are predominantly athletes.

3 hours ago, TheDeuce said:

Juwan Howard reacted to Gard putting his hands on him, let’s make sure we’re clear on that. 

He punched him 3 minutes later during the scrum right?  After the Wisky coach stopped him to talk.  Or was there a 2nd confrontation during the scrum, that lead to the punch?

53 minutes ago, TheDeuce said:

Parents are responsible for teaching their kids what’s wrong and right. If they are learning that from college/pro coaches and athletes, that’s a parenting issue. 

What if they don’t have parents and the coach is the closest thing to a father?

Just now, John Anthony said:

What if they don’t have parents and the coach is the closest thing to a father?

Obviously that’s a different situation. 

6 minutes ago, nikeman49 said:

Once again, totally disagree with what you are saying as kids pay really close attention to their role models that are predominantly athletes.

If your kid swings at another kid in the handshake line, that’s your fault, not Juwan Howard’s. 

5 minutes ago, TheDeuce said:

If your kid swings at another kid in the handshake line, that’s your fault, not Juwan Howard’s. 

I just rewatched the video.  Juwan didn’t even punch the guy who stopped him for a handshake did he?  He was essentially punching a random staff member?