4 hours ago, Bert said:

I believe there should have been a large investment in police to pay for more/better training, more officers and "better" officers to stop the hiring of the bad apples we have due to the poor pay of LMPD.  Instead, most think the answer was to defund, I think defund is an incredibly stupid idea

Defund, ha. As the old saying goes, You get what you pay for. 

Looks like someone was killed in a shootout with police in Louisville overnight. 

I do not really see anything here about the increase in violent gang activity.  The economic/social factors of crime are understood.  And I know that makes certain parts of Louisville much rougher than others.  But the violence and killing is not geographically limited to poorer and racially segregated parts of Louisville.  It's drive-bys and shoot-outs in front of Methodists churches on Hikes Lane.  Or when a father and son is kidnapped in one part of town that is not poor and murdered in planned execution style later in the day.   This is not social/economic crime.  This is not even illegal trafficking turf battles that plague the disadvantage communities.  This is a different landscape.

Something from outside has come into the environment and changed to dynamic. 

My mother finally felt the need to move after 59 years in the same house.  We are waiting on her new home in a 55 and over community in Wilmore to finish.  She will still hear occasional gunshots like she did in Louisville.   But I told her its normal around here since its close to hunting season. 

 

Another violent day in Louisville. Everyday same headlines.

Killings everyday. I'd say it's a crisis!

https://www.wdrb.com/in-depth/louisville-juveniles-often-reoffend-after-being-arrested-given-diversion/article_0484f5d2-4940-11ec-9889-9f74146b2dc4.html?fbclid=IwAR3KXiGeIgfUxdquHtCQ_0C3LWkf3xglphZUT10FkX_1azXrAbDc2fj5g7Y
 

The biggest reason that we have an increase in shooters that are juveniles is the lack of consequences," Lt. Donnie Burbrink, LMPD homicide unit commander, said over the summer. "There are no consequences for these juveniles in this city, and they know it."

On 11/23/2021 at 2:07 PM, Tigerpride94 said:

https://www.wdrb.com/in-depth/louisville-juveniles-often-reoffend-after-being-arrested-given-diversion/article_0484f5d2-4940-11ec-9889-9f74146b2dc4.html?fbclid=IwAR3KXiGeIgfUxdquHtCQ_0C3LWkf3xglphZUT10FkX_1azXrAbDc2fj5g7Y
 

The biggest reason that we have an increase in shooters that are juveniles is the lack of consequences," Lt. Donnie Burbrink, LMPD homicide unit commander, said over the summer. "There are no consequences for these juveniles in this city, and they know it."

I feel like this could tie into our school violence thread as well. When I ask most colleagues why things are they way they are this is the answer. Kids know parents aren't going to do anything and if a school tries to they're met with backlash that just isn't worth it. 

Eventually that can't touch me mentality leads to big crimes like this. 

Here is a graphic from ABC news.

45 minutes ago, theguru said:

Here is a graphic from ABC news.

Wonder whose first.

2 hours ago, theguru said:

Here is a graphic from ABC news.

Add Lexington to that list.  35th broke last years record of 34. 

 

 

I've been to this Roosters many times. Crazy! 

4 minutes ago, Tigerpride94 said:

I've been to this Roosters many times. Crazy! 

Same. 

On 12/9/2021 at 5:44 PM, theguru said:

Here is a graphic from ABC news.

That's a heartbreaking graph.  Ugh.