The great Google Machine gave me this courtesy of Wikipedia:

 

Are they using restrictor plates at Daytona?

 

As of the 2019 Daytona 500 the restrictor plate is no longer used in the Cup series at Daytona and Talladega. Starting with the April 2019 race at Talladega, Cup cars instead move to a tapered spacer in place of a restrictor plate as well as including a larger spoiler, larger splitter, and aero ducts added to the car.

 

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In other words, obviously the faster you go the more kinetic energy you have and therefore the more catastrophic the crashes are at super speedways like Daytona and Talladega.

 

I promise I am not trying to be argumentative RP, this is simply a function speed.

 

Agreed.

 

My Restrictor Plate comment was said out of habit. I knew they stopped using them, although I thought it was longer ago.

 

I was speaking more about the pack racing that takes place at those two tracks. I'm not sure much can be done to eliminate the risk because of the tracks' size. You're going to have tight racing and lots of starting and stopping regardless. Combine that with everyone going 200 MPH, and you're inviting disaster.

Agreed.

 

My Restrictor Plate comment was said out of habit. I knew they stopped using them, although I thought it was longer ago.

 

I was speaking more about the pack racing that takes place at those two tracks. I'm not sure much can be done to eliminate the risk because of the tracks' size. You're going to have tight racing and lots of starting and stopping regardless. Combine that with everyone going 200 MPH, and you're inviting disaster.

 

And as I say that, I freely admit that I would rather watch Daytona & Talladega races more than any other.

My Restrictor Plate comment was said out of habit. I knew they stopped using them, although I thought it was longer ago.

 

It's more about the pack racing that takes place at those two tracks. I'm not sure much can be done to eliminate the risk because of the tracks' size. You're going to have tight racing and lots of starting and stopping regardless. Combine that with everyone going 200 MPH, and you're inviting disaster.

 

In my opinion that wasn't a "pack racing incident" it was Hamlin, Blaney, and Newman in a world of their own.

 

Speed kills.

 

I would go on to argue the smaller the track the bigger the pack.

 

But, to bring it full circle and agree with you, it is the type of racing we see at super speedways.

 

And as I say that, I freely admit that I would rather watch Daytona & Talladega races more than any other.

 

Generally speaking I agree with you the more speed the better but I do like road courses.

It wasn't just the Newman accident. How many incidents did they have in the last 20 laps? How many were there last year? It seems out of control.

It wasn't just the Newman accident. How many incidents did they have in the last 20 laps? How many were there last year? It seems out of control.

 

I don’t think Nascar was ever in control. It’s slightly safer due to engineering breakthroughs, but at the end of the day we’re talking about a lot of guys trying to go 200mph.

Last year they started using spacers at all the tracks to limit horsepower. Along with the new aero package it was to create more competition. (Or one might say closer pack racing) Greatly improved the racing at the mile and a half track but hurt the short tracks. They have went back to the old aero package for the short tracks. Should help.

It wasn't just the Newman accident. How many incidents did they have in the last 20 laps? How many were there last year? It seems out of control.

 

It was way worse last week at Daytona where they only ended up with a handful of finishers.

 

By this same logic, isn't MMA/Boxing/Etc. out of control?

Happens mostly at the Restrictor Plate tracks of Daytona & Talladega. The "pack racing" lends itself to more wrecks.

 

The great Google Machine gave me this courtesy of Wikipedia:

 

Are they using restrictor plates at Daytona?

 

As of the 2019 Daytona 500 the restrictor plate is no longer used in the Cup series at Daytona and Talladega. Starting with the April 2019 race at Talladega, Cup cars instead move to a tapered spacer in place of a restrictor plate as well as including a larger spoiler, larger splitter, and aero ducts added to the car.

 

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In other words, obviously the faster you go the more kinetic energy you have and therefore the more catastrophic the crashes are at super speedways like Daytona and Talladega.

 

I promise I am not trying to be argumentative RP, this is simply a function speed.

 

From what I understand from last year when they made the change. It does not increase the overall average speed, but it does increase the momentum responsiveness of the cars.

 

The idea was to improve passing ability.

 

They are slowing the cars down with aerodynamic changes instead of horsepower restrictions. Makes it easier to slingshot and pass.

From what I understand from last year when they made the change. It does not increase the overall average speed, but it does increase the momentum responsiveness of the cars.

 

The idea was to improve passing ability.

 

They are slowing the cars down with aerodynamic changes instead of horsepower restrictions. Makes it easier to slingshot and pass.

 

I understand all that and wasn't suggesting the speeds are increasing just pointing out that when you are going 200 mph these things happen.

In my opinion that wasn't a "pack racing incident" it was Hamlin, Blaney, and Newman in a world of their own.

 

Speed kills.

 

I would go on to argue the smaller the track the bigger the pack.

 

But, to bring it full circle and agree with you, it is the type of racing we see at super speedways.

 

 

 

Generally speaking I agree with you the more speed the better but I do like road courses.

 

I agree that the Newman wreck had less to do with pack racing. But I think these tracks tend to have more accidents than others because of high speeds and pack racing. Three, and sometimes four wide is incredibly dangerous.

Generally speaking I agree with you the more speed the better but I do like road courses.

 

Watkins Glen is always a favorite of mine.

I agree that the Newman wreck had less to do with pack racing. But I think these tracks tend to have more accidents than others because of high speeds and pack racing. Three, and sometimes four wide is incredibly dangerous.

 

Yes!

Blaney said he knew he couldn’t get around Newman, so he was trying to push him to the win.

It was way worse last week at Daytona where they only ended up with a handful of finishers.

 

By this same logic, isn't MMA/Boxing/Etc. out of control?

 

I've often wondered why MMA/UFC doesn't catch more heat for concussions, CTE, etc.

I've often wondered why MMA/UFC doesn't catch more heat for concussions, CTE, etc.

 

You would think they would need a huge amount of cash in reserve for payouts to these guys and gals later in life when they can barely function.

 

Either way, I think it is a lot like race cars, it is very dangerous and you accept the risks.