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Reds Offseason Thread

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So, a three-way tie for the second wild card in the NL? How the heck do you break that?

 

4 way!!

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So, a three-way tie for the second wild card in the NL? How the heck do you break that?

 

4 way!!

 

It’ll sort itself out for the most part. I can’t see the Reds not winning the central this year.

It’ll sort itself out for the most part. I can’t see the Reds not winning the central this year.

 

That's the most concerning part! This is exactly what Cincinnati sports are AWFUL at!

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Anyone else a little surprised that Sal Romano cleared waivers?

Anyone else a little surprised that Sal Romano cleared waivers?

 

Undoubtedly, yes.

Anyone else a little surprised that Sal Romano cleared waivers?

 

Undoubtedly, yes.

 

I'm actually on the opposite end of this. He's a career 5.17 ERA, and the sample size isn't so small anymore. His ERA last year was near 8, and his stuff wasn't overly dominating. All of that at 26 years old, organizations are full of those guys. He will be a career minor leaguer who gets calls up and down as he can be serviceable and eat innings at times.

I'm assuming with the new rule for relief pitchers (# of batters they must face), that the Reds will definitely be going with 13 pitchers. Some are already locked in stone...

 

Starters - Gray, Castillo, Bauer, Disco, Miley

Back end - Iglesias, Lorenzen, Strop, Garrett

 

Which leaves you with 4 spots for middle relief. This is what they have spring training to decide. Stephenson, Reed and Sims are out of options, so will the Reds be a little more "forgiving" in what these three's results are in the Cactus League, based on the fact that they can't automatically send them to AAA to start the season? I'm going to say, yes. Throw in Matt Bowman, and that's who I think the front-runners will be, barring an injury (looking at you, Reed). Will be interesting to see how some of the youngsters/newcomers fare, and see what chance they're given at making the squad.

I'm actually on the opposite end of this. He's a career 5.17 ERA, and the sample size isn't so small anymore. His ERA last year was near 8, and his stuff wasn't overly dominating. All of that at 26 years old, organizations are full of those guys. He will be a career minor leaguer who gets calls up and down as he can be serviceable and eat innings at times.

 

While his ERA was indeed around 8 last year, he really only had one "bad" outing last year, that ballooned that number up. Take away the 6 runs in 2/3 of an inning against the Nats, and his ERA for the other 11 appearances is a much more respectable 3.44. He just didn't see much playing time, until the Reds jettisoned Hernandez and Hughes.

While his ERA was indeed around 8 last year, he really only had one "bad" outing last year, that ballooned that number up. Take away the 6 runs in 2/3 of an inning against the Nats, and his ERA for the other 11 appearances is a much more respectable 3.44. He just didn't see much playing time, until the Reds jettisoned Hernandez and Hughes.

 

I'll give you that, take out the entire year. Then you've still got a guy with an ERA around 5 and either a negative WAR (or right at 0). His numbers have progressively gotten worse as guys have had more and more tape on him. The hitters are adjusting and he hasn't yet. Organizations are full of guys like that.

 

With all that said I hope he dominates all spring, breaks with the club and is on the mound in the Fall Classic for the Redlegs!

I'll give you that, take out the entire year. Then you've still got a guy with an ERA around 5 and either a negative WAR (or right at 0). His numbers have progressively gotten worse as guys have had more and more tape on him. The hitters are adjusting and he hasn't yet. Organizations are full of guys like that.

 

With all that said I hope he dominates all spring, breaks with the club and is on the mound in the Fall Classic for the Redlegs!

 

You could put Stephenson in that same boat, up until last year when something finally clicked. So, here's hoping Sal can find what needs to finally make things work.

 

I think sometimes you (as an organization) get theses guys who have just simply overpowered people for all of career. But, like you said, everyone's got someone who can throw 98 nowadays, so that mentality has to change. You have to change them from being throwers to being pitchers. I mean, if someone with the stuff of Bronson Arroyo can pitch in the big leagues for 15+ years, it can be done. Guys gotta want to do it, first of all. Then, they've got to work at it.

You could put Stephenson in that same boat, up until last year when something finally clicked. So, here's hoping Sal can find what needs to finally make things work.

 

I think sometimes you (as an organization) get theses guys who have just simply overpowered people for all of career. But, like you said, everyone's got someone who can throw 98 nowadays, so that mentality has to change. You have to change them from being throwers to being pitchers. I mean, if someone with the stuff of Bronson Arroyo can pitch in the big leagues for 15+ years, it can be done. Guys gotta want to do it, first of all. Then, they've got to work at it.

 

100% on all of this, especially Stephenson. I don't think he will touch either one of these guys as far career numbers go, but Randy Johnson and Nolan Rylan both had some early struggles the first few years too.

While his ERA was indeed around 8 last year, he really only had one "bad" outing last year, that ballooned that number up. Take away the 6 runs in 2/3 of an inning against the Nats, and his ERA for the other 11 appearances is a much more respectable 3.44. He just didn't see much playing time, until the Reds jettisoned Hernandez and Hughes.

 

He had a 4.28 ERA with a 1.413 WHIP in AAA. He's a fringe major league player.

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If you listen to podcasts and even if you don't, I highly recommend finding Jim Day's podcast and listening to the most recent episode with Joey Votto. Even if you don't want to listen to the whole thing, go to about the hour mark. The two start talking about their expectations for the season.

If you listen to podcasts and even if you don't, I highly recommend finding Jim Day's podcast and listening to the most recent episode with Joey Votto. Even if you don't want to listen to the whole thing, go to about the hour mark. The two start talking about their expectations for the season.

 

Love some Jim Day!

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