December 22, 20187 yr Per sources, the deal will be: To CIN: Kemp, Wood, Puig To LAD: Bailey, RHP Josiah Gray, INF Jeter Downs. Still more coming out about this. Reds are getting a lot of old-timers.
December 22, 20187 yr Reds are getting a lot of old-timers. Puig and Wood will both be 28 next season. Only Kemp would be outside of his prime.
December 22, 20187 yr Puig and Wood will both be 28 next season. Only Kemp would be outside of his prime. Only Kemp is under contract after this year though.
December 22, 20187 yr As a Reds fan, I am excited for 2019. As a beer vendor at GABP, I am about to start praising Jesus that people are excited and may come to the ballpark.
December 22, 20187 yr As a Reds fan, I am excited for 2019. As a beer vendor at GABP, I am about to start praising Jesus that people are excited and may come to the ballpark. He’ll probably hit 50 dingers, the Reds will be 20 games back and they won’t trade him and let him walk in the offseason.
December 22, 20187 yr This trade is a win because we finally got rid of Homer Bailey. Not sold on Kemp being a big contributor as last year might be a bit of an aberration. Glad to have Puig, though, as I've always been a fan.
December 22, 20187 yr He’ll probably hit 50 dingers, the Reds will be 20 games back and they won’t trade him and let him walk in the offseason. As long as they lineup a Puig bobblehead and 40,000 show up, I am good lol. If they can find a way to grab a true number one, I like my chances for a more lucrative year than 2017 & 2018 haha!
December 22, 20187 yr This deal is a win for the Reds because they dumped Bailey and his contract. I don’t think what the Reds got in return is great by any means, but it does make the team better. How much better is yet to be determined. They are shorter contracts for the guys coming in so the Reds aren’t handicapped. I don’t think this deal moves the Reds up to a team that can make the playoffs or anywhere close to it really.
December 22, 20187 yr Trade Scooter, grab a pitcher and hope for the best. Agreed, this only makes sense if you truly go for it this year.
December 22, 20187 yr Agreed, this only makes sense if you truly go for it this year. Good take. If they don't add a top of the rotation pitcher all they've done is move up a spot, or maybe 2 in the division for one season at the cost of a premium prospect. Surely they have a plan to add Keuchel, Kluber or Bauerr or they wouldn't have done this.
December 22, 20187 yr Look guys, I am a math guy, and 2 + 2 doesn't equal 4 in this deal. So it has to be an accounting transaction and that never gets clarified because the media has no clue. Can someone clarify for me how the accounting works? Take on a $22M contract plus payout $7M to Cinti because the luxury charge is only $17.5M and then release Bailey. Superficial-monopoly talk to me.
December 22, 20187 yr The Reds get 3 former all stars for Homer and two hopefuls. Who cares about any other details? Alex Wood is a very good #2 starter. Staying healthy for a full season is the concern with him. As of now with no other moves, the Reds starters are the best rotation for the Reds since when ... ?
December 22, 20187 yr Look guys, I am a math guy, and 2 + 2 doesn't equal 4 in this deal. So it has to be an accounting transaction and that never gets clarified because the media has no clue. Can someone clarify for me how the accounting works? Take on a $22M contract plus payout $7M to Cinti because the luxury charge is only $17.5M and then release Bailey. Superficial-monopoly talk to me. Bailey deferred some of his money in his contact so not all of it counts against the luxury tax threshold. The Bailey and Kemp contracts are largely a wash. But it looks something like this: The Dodgers pay Bailey $28 million (but only take a luxury tax hit of $17.5 million ) and send Bailey to the house. They send the Reds back $7 million. That's $35 million. In the process they shed $18.25 million owed to Kemp (the Padres have to pay $3.5 million of his $21.75 million this season.), as well as approximately $11 million to Puig and Wood's arbitration number which will be more than the $6 million that he made last season. So that's $35 million paid out by the Dodgers and at least $35 million saved depending on what Wood and Puig get paid. The Dodgers save a little bit against the luxury tax threshold but also gain 3 spots on their 40 man roster to go after some other players.
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