November 7, 200619 yr Just the thought of that final week with my mom brings back a lot of joy and pain. Stay strong, your family needs it... Will do!!:thumb:
November 7, 200619 yr Gametime, I realize your a UC fan. Sorry to attack you. I don't think you disagree that in the most fundamental respect this hurts UoL. No attack taken. Just soild debate from both sides...
November 7, 200619 yr Thanks Gametime I could go on, but I've made my point. This is UoL's loss and UK and UC's gain. Keep your head up young man. You will get your shot to live up to your potential!
November 7, 200619 yr Gametime, I realize your a UC fan. Sorry to attack you. I don't think you disagree that in the most fundamental respect this hurts UoL. This is an indictment on fairness. I guess UC and UK are both beneficiaries of this poor judgement by UoL. Ultimately, I guess I just disagree that this is akin to a "business decision" I understand Petrino's dilema. I won't pretend to think it is insignificant, but I will go on record to say "this wasn't done right" Eastern KY is NOT a hotbed of talent for UK, UoL, Cincy, etc. This is something more fundamental IMO. I think Petrino made an error. Tape? This kid didn't show good things on tape? WOW. I hope he grows into a beast in a UK (or for you Gametime, a UC) uniform. How can you say it's poor judgement on Petrino's part, without hearing the whole story? Being a HC is like being a CEO. Sometimes you have to make decisions that those not in the Boardroom don't understand. In the end, College sports ARE a business, and a BIG business at universities all over the country. They have the ability to bring in huge revenues for the school and fund much more than their respective areas if they are consitently successful. A head coach has to make the right decisions (some not popular) for not only the team, but the program, and ultimately the school. UL offered in August, and maybe they shouldn't have offered so early. The kid accepted in August, but maybe he should have kept his options open longer. If he's as good as promised, then a school as big or bigger than UL will offer. This may in fact hurt recruiting at the state level. I'm not sure I can say yet whether that's a good thing or a bad thing. Louisville has reached a point where they can can compete with many of the "big guys" on the recruiting stage, and it may be time to consider that a great deal of the decisions regarding players will come from more than loyalty to the home-town boys. If they (the in-state players) are the cream of the crop in the national eye, then they'll most likely be considered, I would think. On the flip side, if those at the top of the talent base here in Kentucky eschew Louisville in favor of other schools because of this situation, then Louisville will have to look further for players. I don't see this hurting Louisville recruiting as a whole, just in-state recruiting.
November 7, 200619 yr I don't see that as needed. The Florida Everglades that is the Rock field in November says enough... What in the heck are you talking about? Unfortunately, the team that I follow has been eliminated early from the playoffs in the last several seasons. This leaves me looking for games to go to during the playoffs. I have made the short trip up I-75 to Rock to watch many a playoff game, and have never seen a "questionable" field. Tom Larkey has a great reputation, and I think you either need to be more definitive of your accusation, or apologize. Are you confusing Rock with Bell?
November 7, 200619 yr Indian Givers!! haha. Welcome to Big Time college football where your hometown coach doesn't dictate policy. Bad timing and pretty sad thing for the kid. No doubt. But UL is running with the big boys and millions of dollars are now on the line. If this was a South California kid - we wouldn't have heard ONE word about it here and everyone knows it. :sssh: :sssh: :sssh: Shady - yes. Maybe there is more to it, maybe not. But if the kid is as hyped - he will overcome and I wish him good luck.
November 7, 200619 yr Indian Givers!! haha. Welcome to Big Time college football where your hometown coach doesn't dictate policy. Bad timing and pretty sad thing for the kid. No doubt. But UL is running with the big boys and millions of dollars are now on the line. was a South California kid - we wouldn't have heard ONE word aboIf thisut it here and everyone knows it. :sssh: :sssh: :sssh: Shady - yes. Maybe there is more to it, maybe not. But if the kid is as hyped - he will overcome and I wish him good luck. Very True.
November 7, 200619 yr The homerism is at its best in this thread. Strictly speaking as a UK fan, this is good news. Hopefully this kid will come our way and this can definitely be used as a recruiting tool to in-state kids in the future. For those of you who say the timing is bad, when would be a good time? Tell the kid ASAP so he can make plans for the future. I'm not sure I would define this move as "classless", although I do think BP can at least pick the phone up and call the kid, but it sure is kinda shady.
November 7, 200619 yr I guess I was. Sorry... Thank you. Most of the time I disagree with you, GT, but I always respect you. Your comment about Coach Larkey was way off base. Tom Larkey is an awesome coach and an even better man. I have not talked to him personally but I'm sure his heart is broken for Brad Durham. Here is my problem with the whole deal. While Rockcastle puts a good football team on the field each year, its not a hotbed of D1 talent. To those of you in larger cities, quite respectfully you do not know what you are talking about. To the people of Rockcastle, its not "just business" its a betrayal. The whole county was/is so proud of Brad Durham for his skills and his ability to play on the next level. As 3w stated, there's a huge UL billboard inside the county, and I can assure you that is not a common occurence! I've seen people wearing UL shirts and hats and while I know some are just fans, I would bet most are new-fans because of Brad. People are proud one of their own is good enough to wear the Cardinal red. Now that has been yanked and for what? If he was good enough in August, then he should be good enough in November. Yes, I'm a UK grad, but I was already preparing to cheer for Brad and UL next season. This is a life-altering event for Brad and I, for one, hope he makes Petrino regret his decision.
November 7, 200619 yr Author How can you say it's poor judgement on Petrino's part, without hearing the whole story? Being a HC is like being a CEO. Sometimes you have to make decisions that those not in the Boardroom don't understand. In the end, College sports ARE a business, and a BIG business at universities all over the country. They have the ability to bring in huge revenues for the school and fund much more than their respective areas if they are consitently successful. A head coach has to make the right decisions (some not popular) for not only the team, but the program, and ultimately the school. UL offered in August, and maybe they shouldn't have offered so early. The kid accepted in August, but maybe he should have kept his options open longer. If he's as good as promised, then a school as big or bigger than UL will offer. This may in fact hurt recruiting at the state level. I'm not sure I can say yet whether that's a good thing or a bad thing. Louisville has reached a point where they can can compete with many of the "big guys" on the recruiting stage, and it may be time to consider that a great deal of the decisions regarding players will come from more than loyalty to the home-town boys. If they (the in-state players) are the cream of the crop in the national eye, then they'll most likely be considered, I would think. On the flip side, if those at the top of the talent base here in Kentucky eschew Louisville in favor of other schools because of this situation, then Louisville will have to look further for players. I don't see this hurting Louisville recruiting as a whole, just in-state recruiting. The thing is UL pressed him for a verbal at that time. The kid was still making visits, and he cut it short to verbal.
November 7, 200619 yr The thing is UL pressed him for a verbal at that time. The kid was still making visits, and he cut it short to verbal. I guess I don't understand is if he's as good as billed (and I don't at all doubt that he is), why would he cave in to the pressure that early? Or, if other offers were looking to be coming down the line, why commit to UL that early? I'm not defending UL for this as a homer. I'm trying to figure out all the details, just like everyone else. From a business standpoint I can understand UL's position. From a kids standpoint, I can understand the player's position. But, I can't shake the feeling that there's more to this than is being told, and that although it sucks for the player, and doesn't look good for the UL program, something about this is more than just a classless act by Petrino.
November 7, 200619 yr Perhaps Gametime. Tell me this doesn't leave a sour taste in Kentucky High School Coaches and players mouth. Maybe this signals UoL is bigger than their home state. Louisville kids will undoutedly continue to have faith, but gosh, this has some effect does it not? If you are a Coach of a program who typically does not produce D1 talent, do you not have a DUTY to mention to your player (17 or 18 years old and parents) that UoL has shown they are unwilling to honor their offers? This depends...I really think it will have ZERO effect on the schools here in Louisville. It may have an effect from those out in the state, but that is less than 10% of where Louisville gets its talent NOW.
November 7, 200619 yr I guess I don't understand is if he's as good as billed (and I don't at all doubt that he is), why would he cave in to the pressure that early? Or, if other offers were looking to be coming down the line, why commit to UL that early? I'm not defending UL for this as a homer. I'm trying to figure out all the details, just like everyone else. From a business standpoint I can understand UL's position. From a kids standpoint, I can understand the player's position. But, I can't shake the feeling that there's more to this than is being told, and that although it sucks for the player, and doesn't look good for the UL program, something about this is more than just a classless act by Petrino. Cave into Pressure??? He probably wanted to come to UL because it was a top 25 team that was close to home. And by committing early he could get it out of the way and focus on the upcoming season. Also whenever a player commits somewhere other coaches will take the kid off of their list and move onto another player. I feel bad for the kid. Im not a UK fan or a UL fan and if I had heard this happened anywhere else to any other kid I would feel the same way.
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