So who around the state is currently subscribing to the QVC deal of the month, the Tony Franklin Spread Offense? (ie the Entrepeneurial Spirit of Mumme Ball)

 

Which teams are using his spread offense this year? How do you beat it? Is it worth the money?

So who around the state is currently subscribing to the QVC deal of the month, the Tony Franklin Spread Offense? (ie the Entrepeneurial Spirit of Mumme Ball)

 

Which teams are using his spread offense this year? How do you beat it? Is it worth the money?

 

The thing is you really don't need to pay for it, there are only about 4 running plays and 6 passing plays in that offense. Hopefully you can teach your defense to tackle and not use failed offensive players on D. If you can teach your team those 10 plays and play defense you will win.

Where is Tony these days? anyone know where Tony calls home

Where is Tony these days? anyone know where Tony calls home

 

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The thing is you really don't need to pay for it, there are only about 4 running plays and 6 passing plays in that offense. Hopefully you can teach your defense to tackle and not use failed offensive players on D. If you can teach your team those 10 plays and play defense you will win.

 

If you dont have a quarterback that can pick a defense apart, WR's that can not only run, but run the routes efficiently and catch the ball then one might as well be beatin a dead horse, b/c you'll get more out of doing that than you will with trying to run the Tony Franklin system. If you dont have that, then you'll certainly just be "throwing" the ball, b/c therer definately wont be any "receiving" involved.

 

People forget that Franklin has made it look good in college and even at the HS level at places like HOOVER and O'Cath, E-town, but those places have also had the ATHLETES to make that system productive. If you have the people to do it, then I'm all about it, but if you dont, then, well, look like you know what you're doing, literally just THROW (not catch) the ball around, only complete 40% of your passes, let the clock stop over and over and over, let the other team get the ball back, them run it down your throat and let the score get more out of hand than it would if you would have simply just lined up and ran a more conservative, effective offense given the talent of lack of that you have to run that Franklin's offense..instead of trying to look innovative!!!

 

In saying all of this, though, Tony Franklin really is a genious. When it is run properly, meaning when one has all the tools (QB, WR's, O-line, etc.) then it is a beauty to watch, like Hoover for example or O'Cath and E-town of the past couple years..might I add that, ALL of these are schools who have had their starting QB's of years past sign with Alabama, Marshall and Texas Tech.

Franklin county is a perfect example of this system. Before Walker and Co.

came to FCHS they had a winless season and now the are a contender!

It also makes the game more fan friendly and more fun for the PLAYERS !

If you dont have a quarterback that can pick a defense apart, WR's that can not only run, but run the routes efficiently and catch the ball then one might as well be beatin a dead horse, b/c you'll get more out of doing that than you will with trying to run the Tony Franklin system. If you dont have that, then you'll certainly just be "throwing" the ball, b/c therer definately wont be any "receiving" involved.

 

People forget that Franklin has made it look good in college and even at the HS level at places like HOOVER and O'Cath, E-town, but those places have also had the ATHLETES to make that system productive. If you have the people to do it, then I'm all about it, but if you dont, then, well, look like you know what you're doing, literally just THROW (not catch) the ball around, only complete 40% of your passes, let the clock stop over and over and over, let the other team get the ball back, them run it down your throat and let the score get more out of hand than it would if you would have simply just lined up and ran a more conservative, effective offense given the talent of lack of that you have to run that Franklin's offense..instead of trying to look innovative!!!

 

In saying all of this, though, Tony Franklin really is a genious. When it is run properly, meaning when one has all the tools (QB, WR's, O-line, etc.) then it is a beauty to watch, like Hoover for example or O'Cath and E-town of the past couple years..might I add that, ALL of these are schools who have had their starting QB's of years past sign with Alabama, Marshall and Texas Tech.

 

Is this not true with all offenses? You can get by with a little less talent in this O, I know for a fact.

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I would have to agree, you don't need superstars, all you need are kids that are going to do the right thing everytime. The key to this offense is repetition. All you need is some par receivers that can be taught how to read coverage and a quaterback that can get the ball to the. As far as line they just need to talk. Western Hills was going to put this offense in until Coach Engstrand left, however, I think he is tyring to run it at Henry Co. Very effective offense. As a defensive coach it is very hard to stop once you learn how the offense is works.

The thing is you really don't need to pay for it, there are only about 4 running plays and 6 passing plays in that offense. Hopefully you can teach your defense to tackle and not use failed offensive players on D. If you can teach your team those 10 plays and play defense you will win.

Don't make it sound so simple. While there may be a small number of "base" plays, each play can have over 50 variations each.

The line play is probably the most complex to master you have to teach them alot of different types of blocking, screens, pass, quick pass, runs, front and defense recognition.

Don't make it sound so simple. While there may be a small number of "base" plays, each play can have over 50 variations each.

:thumb: You are correct. It takes many hours of practice for the QB & WR to get their timing and learn the language & route running in the spread. This offense is a high school QB's or WR dream. It also makes it great for a team that doesn't run block well. It is designed to be a ball control offense and when executed properly (as is all offenses) is great to watch. A team that can play defense and run the spread is a deadly combination. From a WR standpoint, the spread also prepares a kid for the next level because most of the routes involved are the same that will be ran in college. I enjoy good ole smash mouth football but I also enjoy watching a talented QB or WR play pitch & catch.

The line play is probably the most complex to master you have to teach them alot of different types of blocking, screens, pass, quick pass, runs, front and defense recognition.

Your comments are true about the different techniques but for a team that can not run block very well this offense makes it easier on the lineman. They do not have to hold their blocks as long. This is why our high school team went to the spread a few years ago.

I wouldn't say you need a talented bunch of kids to win games. I don't see alot of colleges knockin' on Catholic's door to recruit kids. Yes, Catholic had Barnard, but had slow WR that could run good routes and catch every ball. That year the only kid being recruited was Barnard. I think you need a TEAM that understands the offense and believes in it. Catholic plays hard and they get alot out of kids when they got a new coach, he implemented this offense. The previous year they lost around 18 starters. When Catholic got beat by E-town in 2003, Catholic was more talented then them, but I think the no-huddle wore them out.

Your comments are true about the different techniques but for a team that can not run block very well this offense makes it easier on the lineman. They do not have to hold their blocks as long. This is why our high school team went to the spread a few years ago.

 

That will limit your succes, in this offense but it is tougher than most think on the lineman. The reason the run blocking is more difficult is becuase of all the space involved from the defense, it is easy to stay on run blocks if you are blocking down and doubling all the time.

Russell did a pretty good job of stopping the Tony Franklin system last December...:fire: