Time to put private schools all in one class.

 

Time to put private schools all in one class.

 

I can see it now. Trinity vs. Bishop Brossart in the first round of the playoffs.

I think a better question would be "do private schools entice great coaches away from public schools". Theses schools aren't winning without some pretty darn good leadership as well.

No one has any real boundaries, just self-imposed ones.

 

Yup. When private-hating folks in my Hardin County area try to argue boundaries, I point out several high-profile athletes at 5th Region PUBLIC schools who did NOT play at their home school, but rather at public schools in other counties.

 

If being a private school is such a huge advantage, then Bardstown Bethlehem in the 5th Region and Christian Fellowship over in WKY are doing it way, way wrong since they are basically the only private schools in their districts/regions and do NOT have many, at all, region titles to show for it.

I can see it now. Trinity vs. Bishop Brossart in the first round of the playoffs.

 

Nope. Geography still applies.

Trinity vs. Bethlehem or KCD.

Cov Cath vs. Brossart or Cov Holy Cross.

I wonder how charter schools will effect this in a few years?

 

I'm not concerned in the least bit. The metro areas already have schools with great athletics to overcome.

 

In other areas, those schools would never get built because they would not get voted in OR the financing to get it built.

 

It's not like putting a new restaurant in an empty commercial storefront. Schools and athletic facilities are much larger, more expensive and tougher to keep up to date and up to standards.

 

This charter thing has been floating around for a little while now and I have yet to see even ONE single viable plan to get one up and running any time soon. The budget cuts will not help that time table, either.

Do private schools "entice" kids away from public schools when they play one another?

 

synonyms: tempt, lure, allure, attract, appeal to

 

There is no blanket yes or no for the question.

But if on a witness stand, forced into a yes/no answer.

I would go with YES.

Just playing against another team, could entice-attract-appeal to an athlete to want to go there. Seeing a schools facilities, academic & athletic, interaction with the other team (kicking our butt with class vs total jerks), even interaction with the other teams parents/fans will have an impact.

Many variables involved in deciding where to go to school - and play sport X.

 

Each variable is weighted differently by the family, and even weighted differently by mom, dad, and student athlete.

The weighting would be fluid and dynamic as new information comes in.

Playing a team, particularly at their brand new facility, could increase the weight/score...

IF SAID PLAYER/FAMILY was already considering a change - whether it be active or passively.

So that one game/match could be a tie breaker.

 

I don't think private vs public is always an advantage. Clearly a lack of a district boundary has a positive impact to primarily private schools scores. Some public schools have that same advantage.

 

Now I'm having a mental flashback to the TOP 10 episodes on the Military Channel.

 

Just one's opinion but I think it is naive to think kids are enticed to transfer to another school by playing against that school. I think it is safe to say by the time most kids get to junior high school, them and their parents are well aware of the options in their area and what each option has to offer in way of academics, athletics, and any other extra activities and policies, such as a zero drug and alcohol policy, etc all schools have to offer. If as a parent you do not know these things by the time your child is in middle school you are doing your children a disservice.

The charter school issue is for sure a weird one. I haven't kept up with it like I need to, but I did see an attachment to the bill that stated if the Charter School didn't have athletic facilities for them to field a team, then those students would then be eligible to play for their school they would have attended where they live. It then in my opinion opens up the home school students playing on teams can of worms as well.

 

I'm not concerned in the least bit. The metro areas already have schools with great athletics to overcome.

 

In other areas, those schools would never get built because they would not get voted in OR the financing to get it built.

 

It's not like putting a new restaurant in an empty commercial storefront. Schools and athletic facilities are much larger, more expensive and tougher to keep up to date and up to standards.

 

This charter thing has been floating around for a little while now and I have yet to see even ONE single viable plan to get one up and running any time soon. The budget cuts will not help that time table, either.

My answer to the question at hand is, Hell yes. And, any schools, private or not, that does not attempt to sale their school to students and parents every time people are on their campus is wrong in my opinion.

 

I don't know about everywhere else, but my area schools have their test score reported in the news paper, they have signs out front of the school buildings, they print pamphlets about their accomplishments and have them prominently displayed. Is that not trying to sale their school and programs to potential students?

Not only that, CovCath gives parents a choice the public schools don't offer, the Drug and Alcohol Policy.

 

I found this on CCH's website:

 

This initiative can provide parents greater peace of mind.

 

Knowing that your son is subject to random drug testing – and therefore more equipped to resist or avoid situations of peer pressure – may somewhat ease the angst that you (and all parents) have about the decisions teens make. This increased “peace of mind” among parents is evident from the feedback we have received from the parents surveys of our students in DFCA, and by benchmarking with schools around the United States that have similar testing policies.

 

Drug & Alcohol Policy - Covington Catholic High School

 

Apparently, Boone County is talking about implementing something similar. My son came home from school and mentioned this to me. He represents the student body on some board or other and was privy to this discussion.

 

I think most of us want to be a part of a winner.

 

Let's face it, the Boone County powers that be are masters of putting themselves at competitive disadvantages.

 

Coming full circle, I don't think it has much to do with public vs. private but rather schools that have their act together vs. schools that don't have their act together.

 

I think the answer to the OP is yes athletes/parents are enticed by a school like Cov Cath that is having success on the field. G-man hits the nail on the head when he says it is about success and people want to be a part of it.

 

It doesn't just work with parochial schools, it is also present among public schools.

 

The four high schools in Boone County are a prime example. From the time my kids were in elementary school, I had other parents asking me where my kids were going to high school. My answer was always the same--Boone County High School is the district we live in so they will go to Boone County. Many times I was asked this question and it was usually from another parent of an athlete. Some looked surprised by my answer. (for a different thread, but I think there are a lot of false perceptions out there)

 

Never was I approached by a coach, but many parents suggested we look at going to another high school. Now, Boone County school district is a closed system. But I know many people who found a way to attend a H.S. of their choice instead of the one where they lived. Some actually moved, some had legitimate means to be an exception to the rule. I could have legitimately chosen any of the 4 schools since my wife is a school district employee. Some others get very creative in the way they approach this.

 

My point is, parents of students and players are effected by other parents and the general perception of one school being better academically, or superior in athletics. This is how parents are "enticed" to enroll their child at a parochial school or one that is "out of district". Some of it is keeping up with the Joneses, some of it is trying to ensure their child gets the best chance for college through academics or athletics. It is a mixed bag. The problem for Boone County High School is that not only do people perceive they will have better athletic success at one of the other high schools and therefore find a way to place their child there, Florence doesn't have as many new homes being built and so young families new to the area wind up in other districts and thus future talent is also funneled away from Boone County High School. It's a hard hole to get out of.

 

This is my perspective based on my experience with the 4 schools in Boone County. I think it applies to the question raised about Cov Cath.

 

Taking this a slightly different direction... I'm old school. I grew up in an area that had one of the oldest football rivalries in our state. No way in HECK would I EVER cross over to play for my rival school. I would rather die. So, no matter the cycle of winning or losing, talent or less talent I find myself, I ain't changing sides for anything!

Drug & Alcohol Policy - Covington Catholic High

 

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Apparently, Boone County is talking about implementing something similar. My son came home from school and mentioned this to me. He represents the student body on some board or other and was privy to this discussion.

 

As a KY tax paying resident, I find it inexcusable all publicly funded schools including colleges do not have a zero tolerance drug and alcohol policy. Same goes for private K-12 schools, but that is their prerogative, the risk they (without having a similar policy) take of loosing enrollment.

 

No doubt CCH (pretty sure the first NKY HS private or public to implement a zero tolerance drug and alcohol policy) will see an increase in enrollment due to this policy.

Drug & Alcohol Policy - Covington Catholic High

 

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As a KY tax paying resident, I find it inexcusable all publicly funded schools including colleges do not have a zero tolerance drug and alcohol policy. Same goes for private K-12 schools, but that is their prerogative, the risk they (without having a similar policy) take of loosing enrollment.

 

No doubt CCH (pretty sure the first NKY HS private or public to implement a zero tolerance drug and alcohol policy) will see an increase in enrollment due to this policy.

 

Let me hasten to say that I have not read the Cov Cath policy or the one being considered at Boone to know where they are similar and where they are different. I was responding to the description given in this thread that there would be random drug tests. I believe this is true of the one under consideration at Boone. In addition, I think this will be voluntary. In other words, parents need to sign a paper saying they want this for their child. Parents are giving permission to the school to do the random drug tests. I do not know what consequences the school will institute for a child testing positive for drugs.

Let me hasten to say that I have not read the Cov Cath policy or the one being considered at Boone to know where they are similar and where they are different. I was responding to the description given in this thread that there would be random drug tests. I believe this is true of the one under consideration at Boone. In addition, I think this will be voluntary. In other words, parents need to sign a paper saying they want this for their child. Parents are giving permission to the school to do the random drug tests. I do not know what consequences the school will institute for a child testing positive for drugs.

 

Hopefully treatment and counseling.

CovCath's policy looks solid but I still would have a hard time allowing a school to administer drug tests to my child. Schools may say they have my child's best interests in mind but they will still put their interests above my child's. The trust factor, at least with one school they attended is way too low for me to have considered such a thing; especially with the Campbell Co. Police on site daily as resource officers.

 

I don't have a problem testing my kids myself though and have done so in the past.