July 27, 20179 yr The best foursome I could put together has a 50/50 shot at making a cut. Three college golfers and myself, ever the beer drinker, would maybe contend for a spot over the weekend, and while putting is probably the best facet of my game, I hold the team back by not giving any telling reads on the green. Luckily, my optimism and hilariously bad game are enough to not be hated by my team at the end of the round.
July 27, 20179 yr I have zero golf game, zero, absolute zero. Then get better with the pencil. Bogeys are honest, doubles have no place in a scramble.
July 27, 20179 yr I'm gonna probably guess every player on the 4some isn't good at everything, which is probably a safe guess. So Tom might be able to hit it a mile off the tee (but not always straight more than likely)...but can't putt to save his. So if that's the case that really brings you down to at best 3 tries on the green cause Tom isn't going to help. Mack is a pretty good putter but can't hit the ball out of his shadow off the tee. Same deal in reverse. Go on down the line. And chipping/pitching? Forget about it. I think the chances of the 4some hitting any given shot "good" in the given conditions is pretty low, less than 50% in my mind. Not an average shot...a good shot...which is what's going to have to happen to compete, they are going to have to hit a LOT of good, and at times very good shots. And remember too, this 4some has 2 or 3 PGA tour players standing around watching them play, not to mention thousands in the gallery. It's a fun thought, but it would be a struggle. Well, if you're forcing us to assemble a foursome with an A,B,C and D level player...then, yeah. But, if we're allowed to put four guys of any skill level on the team, you can bet your behind I (and everyone else here) am going with four A-level players. So, no...I don't think there's going to be the glaring weaknesses in each individual's game the way it would be in a normal scramble.
July 27, 20179 yr Well, if you're forcing us to assemble a foursome with an A,B,C and D level player...then, yeah. But, if we're allowed to put four guys of any skill level on the team, you can bet your behind I (and everyone else here) am going with four A-level players. So, no...I don't think there's going to be the glaring weaknesses in each individual's game the way it would be in a normal scramble. Weekend Elks Lodge scramble at City X course compared to the average team, wholeheartedly agree. Compared to the PGA game...gonna be plenty of weaknesses, even with 4 "A" players..
July 27, 20179 yr Weekend Elks Lodge scramble at City X course compared to the average team, wholeheartedly agree. Compared to the PGA game...gonna be plenty of weaknesses, even with 4 "A" players.. Sorry, I just don't see it that way. So, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this. Really the one area where I see the pros having a huge advantage over the guys that I'm thinking of, is bunker play. Nobody I knows goes out and practices it the same way the pros do. How much would this come into play? Depends on the course. But, other than that, I like having four chances at the ball.
July 27, 20179 yr I'm sorry but there is no way the team I would put together wouldn't win. 3 plus handicappers and a scratch. We're shooting 65 easily on every course with the exception of US Open or Augusta. I took this group to a scramble at Triple Crown, playing the gold tees and we shot -16. Triple is probably harder than a lot of courses on tour.
July 27, 20179 yr I'm sorry but there is no way the team I would put together wouldn't win. 3 plus handicappers and a scratch. We're shooting 65 easily on every course with the exception of US Open or Augusta. I took this group to a scramble at Triple Crown, playing the gold tees and we shot -16. Triple is probably harder than a lot of courses on tour. I'm thinking your group and a couple others in this thread may want to see whether or not this is true! :bunny:
July 27, 20179 yr I'm sorry but there is no way the team I would put together wouldn't win. 3 plus handicappers and a scratch. We're shooting 65 easily on every course with the exception of US Open or Augusta. I took this group to a scramble at Triple Crown, playing the gold tees and we shot -16. Triple is probably harder than a lot of courses on tour. Ummmmm...no comment.
July 27, 20179 yr Sorry, I just don't see it that way. So, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this. Really the one area where I see the pros having a huge advantage over the guys that I'm thinking of, is bunker play. Nobody I knows goes out and practices it the same way the pros do. How much would this come into play? Depends on the course. But, other than that, I like having four chances at the ball. Short game (includes bunker play), chipping/pitching and putting. Those guys are on another planet, not even close.
July 27, 20179 yr Sorry, I just don't see it that way. So, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this. Really the one area where I see the pros having a huge advantage over the guys that I'm thinking of, is bunker play. Nobody I knows goes out and practices it the same way the pros do. How much would this come into play? Depends on the course. But, other than that, I like having four chances at the ball. With 4 players there shouldn't be more than maybe one bunker shot. Not in a scramble foursome.
July 27, 20179 yr I'm sorry but there is no way the team I would put together wouldn't win. 3 plus handicappers and a scratch. We're shooting 65 easily on every course with the exception of US Open or Augusta. I took this group to a scramble at Triple Crown, playing the gold tees and we shot -16. Triple is probably harder than a lot of courses on tour. I agree. I asked the one guy that would be on my team, a former All-Sunbelt Conference player and two time State Am champ, and he said we would shoot between 5 to 7 under each day. He's play the same type layouts that the pros play, with the same fast greens, etc, and these 3 I would have on my team would not be intimidated one bit by those type courses. In a scramble format they would be hard to beat by any individual pro.
July 27, 20179 yr I agree. I asked the one guy that would be on my team, a former All-Sunbelt Conference player and two time State Am champ, and he said we would shoot between 5 to 7 under each day. He's play the same type layouts that the pros play, with the same fast greens, etc, and these 3 I would have on my team would not be intimidated one bit by those type courses. In a scramble format they would be hard to beat by any individual pro. I think these teams are the exception to the rule. Not many teams will have two time state am champs.
July 27, 20179 yr I'm interested to see Jahearme's opinion in this discussion. He could probably round up a pretty good foursome.
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