July 14, 20179 yr Why in the world do we allow Russian, or any other country, lobbyist in our political arena ?? I realize there are over 3000 American businesses in Russia and at least 6000 US companies do business with Russia. Still don't think we should allow foreign lobbyist.. Pardon the off subject rant...
July 14, 20179 yr How A False Conspiracy Theory About The Russian Lawyer Who Met With Don Jr. Spread To Trump - BuzzFeed News How A False Conspiracy Theory About The Russian Lawyer Who Met With Don Jr. Spread To Trump Some of these folks could sell ice to Eskimos. None of this explains the reasoning for her extended stay or how the NSA knew nothing of her whereabouts for 5 months til her meeting with Trump Jr.
July 14, 20179 yr Why in the world do we allow Russian, or any other country, lobbyist in our political arena ?? I realize there are over 3000 American businesses in Russia and at least 6000 US companies do business with Russia. Still don't think we should allow foreign lobbyist.. Pardon the off subject rant... Amen!
July 16, 20179 yr What I don't understand ... and I know the right handed folks here won't step up to the plate and help me understand is this thought: *There is a commission which just so happens to be investigating voter fraud ... because our President seems to think that there were millions of illegal voters because he lost the popular vote (which again means absolutely nothing since he easily won the vote that counts ... you know ... the electoral college). *This commission wants information regarding voters .... uploaded to an shoddily protected website ... where info can easily be stolen. *The current President is insistent that millions of illegal voters took part in the election to vote for someone other than himself. What I don't get ... for someone so freaking paranoid about an election (where he WON) ... why in the world would his son, his most important aid and leader of his election campaign take a meeting with someone from a "Non-Ally" country to dish up dirt on his opponent (right in the middle of the campaign)? You are trying to get dirt on your opponent .... (I get that--and could care less if it came from someone in our country) ... but why do you continue to claim fraud after you won the election? That thought alone should scare the heck out of the American people.
July 17, 20179 yr I am not a rightist, nor care for Donald Trump, but I would rather have the person who won start an investigation into voter fraud then hear from the loser crying about it. It comes off as sour grapes if the loser calls for an investigation or recounts. I don't think there is major fraud but there are definitely discrepancies. Could just be bad reporting or untrained workers but when a district receives more votes than voters, something happened. I don't mind them trying to clean up the voting process.
July 17, 20179 yr General election vote loser Trump whines about voter fraud ... Electoral College loser Clinton whines about losing the electoral vote. Loser vs. loser ... whiner vs. whiner ... pot vs. kettle
July 18, 20179 yr What I don't understand ... and I know the right handed folks here won't step up to the plate and help me understand is this thought: What I don't get ... for someone so freaking paranoid about an election (where he WON) ... why in the world would his son, his most important aid and leader of his election campaign take a meeting with someone from a "Non-Ally" country to dish up dirt on his opponent (right in the middle of the campaign)? You are trying to get dirt on your opponent .... (I get that--and could care less if it came from someone in our country) ... but why do you continue to claim fraud after you won the election? That thought alone should scare the heck out of the American people. Right handed folks DID step up to the plate and CLEANED the bases, when they voted and elected President Donald J. Trump. IF you never voted for President Trump, there is nothing to make you understand why he was the candidate our country needed, especially in an election this historical. And as in other cases when the favored team is losing, to use another softball term, there has been a bench clearing brawl ever since. At times it almost seems like it's a PTSD type of reaction. Like the Democrats are in denial, 6 months after the Inauguration. As to the commission formed to investigate voter fraud, SOSs need to meet and decide a secure means to protect voter's rights and information. The last thing we need is another shoddily designed and poorly protected government website like the one rolled out for Obamacare. I think the only solution to voter fraud is a Photo Voter I.D. card. It can be a card like the one used for minors who are flying, or a card that is presented for government assistance or to receive Medicaid benefits. I need a photo I.D. card plus a second source of identification for a doctor's appointment. Any country who can get tax returns filed through the I.R.S. or in my youth could land a man on the moon, can also get photo voter I.D. cards to the voting public that needs them. So I have no idea why you are afraid. This audit can be made secure.
July 18, 20179 yr ^^^^ Mamaw, I actually agree with you on your second point. States need to start now or better yet if Trump writes an EO that puts pictures on Social Security cards, BUT this will take money. I doubt he will get the right side of the Hill to go long with more federal spending unless it's some type of airplane.
July 18, 20179 yr Turns out the Original thread title is a lie. She did have a folder of dirt on Clinton.
July 18, 20179 yr Right handed folks DID step up to the plate and CLEANED the bases, when they voted and elected President Donald J. Trump. IF you never voted for President Trump, there is nothing to make you understand why he was the candidate our country needed, especially in an election this historical. And as in other cases when the favored team is losing, to use another softball term, there has been a bench clearing brawl ever since. At times it almost seems like it's a PTSD type of reaction. Like the Democrats are in denial, 6 months after the Inauguration. As to the commission formed to investigate voter fraud, SOSs need to meet and decide a secure means to protect voter's rights and information. The last thing we need is another shoddily designed and poorly protected government website like the one rolled out for Obamacare. I think the only solution to voter fraud is a Photo Voter I.D. card. It can be a card like the one used for minors who are flying, or a card that is presented for government assistance or to receive Medicaid benefits. I need a photo I.D. card plus a second source of identification for a doctor's appointment. Any country who can get tax returns filed through the I.R.S. or in my youth could land a man on the moon, can also get photo voter I.D. cards to the voting public that needs them. So I have no idea why you are afraid. This audit can be made secure. Darn right about the bolded, mamaw.
July 18, 20179 yr Different strokes for different folks. You're right, dear lady. Mr. Trump is obviously the perfect stroke for both you and my mother and I couldn't possibly be more bewildered.
July 18, 20179 yr You're right, dear lady. Mr. Trump is obviously the perfect stroke for both you and my mother and I couldn't possibly be more bewildered. Yes, your Mother and I have ALWAYS believed in the dignity of the President and the office. The left is always asking how we can support President Trump with his uncouth ways and lack of dignity. We tried dignity-none better than George Bush #41,quiet dignity and loved his country, was a decorated pilot in WWII and the Clinton gang made fun and ate him alive. Then statesmanship-John McCain with his bipartisan work in the Senate and Vietnam War hero and we saw how he was besmirched, most of all by his own senior campaign strategist Steve Schmidt who axed Sara Palin. Then propriety-one of the nicest candidates to run, Mitt Romney. He received a frontal assault with 47%comment or binders of women's job applications that were taken out of context and his family were trashed by the Obama crew for being "elitists". And all the while the Democrats were taking pages from Alinsky's book, Rules for Radicals, whom he dedicated to Lucifer. Obama partnered with Rezko,Ayers,and attended Jeremiah Wright's church for 20 years. Bill Clinton's pal Marc Rich and HRC's favorite Alinsky,whom she chose for her senior thesis. SF and you wonder why we voted for President Donald Trump, we decided we needed to fight fire with fire. Republicans approached elections by taking the high road and with a theory of may the best man win. Democrats have been using enemies of our democracy such as Ayers, Alinsky, Dorn, Rezko, Rich and Jeremiah Wright. Finally, we decided after many decades that we needed a bare knuckled fighter to fight fire with fire. That's who we got, that's what it took and we won. It's not mine nor your mother's style but it is what it is. I hope somewhere down the road we can return to civility but we will have to see.
July 18, 20179 yr Come on Mamaw. You know it is full assault on anyone from any party running for any office. First perfected by Lee Atwater and everyone has followed the plan since.
July 19, 20179 yr Come on Mamaw. You know it is full assault on anyone from any party running for any office. First perfected by Lee Atwater and everyone has followed the plan since. Sorry, Atwater came on the scene with aggressive campaigning with wedge issues. That is not mudslinging. Atwater did not join the Reagan campaigning until 1980. HRC's work with Saul Alinsky began in 1968 when they began corresponding. Hillary was running Bill's campaigns as early as 1972 and Alinsky tactics on organizing were very much in use thru Hillary's campaign style. She was an early Saul Alinsky believer as stated from her senior year thesis. Atwater used real issues while Clinton's were learned at the knee of Alinsky during her work at Berkeley. Obama also perfected Alinsky's community organizing and put it to good use in his campaigns. The GOP better take notice and continue President Trump's hard nosed campaigning, if any of them intend to be reelected. Obama is still organizing as witnessed thru his OAFs " Organizing For Action" offices in all 50 states.
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