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President Trump Withdraws US from Paris Climate Accord

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He evolved just like Obama did after running 2 presidential campaigns vowing to protect traditional marriage.

 

I figured he just followed the money.:lol2:

It's not a treaty though so your whole post is wrong from the first sentence. This isn't a treaty. There wasn't a war.

 

Or was there?

 

His whole post is actually right. The accord was to appease those who do not care about us.

His whole post is actually right. The accord was to appease those who do not care about us.

 

Sure it was.

I figured he just followed the money.:lol2:

 

Certainly is plenty to follow... Also part of the faux outrage...

Certainly is plenty to follow... Also part of the faux outrage...

 

No doubt.

 

See: Kathy Griffin thread

Oh no, that comment wasn't really directed at this in any way. More of my world view on the whole climate change topic/debate.

 

I'm against anything and everything that takes money out of my pocket. :lol2:

 

Well. Glad you're super committed to doing your part.

I can only speak for myself.

 

I'm glad that money came out of my pocket for state retirement benefits.

31,000 scientist say if you believe man made climate change is happening now, you are denying the science of the last six million years... Just 600 years ago there was 5 times more Co2 in the atmosphere than now... Tons more evidence available if one cares to look....

Anyone that knows me knows I am a bleeding heart liberal as far as the environment goes. Having said that real, not symbolic, political actions are needed. Whether man can stop global warming is not known. However, cleaning up our environment makes common sense. However, the Paris Treaty did not. It was a load of bull to make people feel like something was being done...and many of them the wrong things. At least 1/4 of the carbon put into the atmosphere is the result of deforestation which was even ignored by the treaty until 2015. Much of the deforestation is to establish palm oil plants. Who uses it- Indonesia, China and EU27. So the groups crying about the US pullout are the worst offenders. Also, deforestation targets if 2030 are voluntary, and what will happen anyway....offenders will just work faster.

31,000 scientist say if you believe man made climate change is happening now, you are denying the science of the last six million years... Just 600 years ago there was 5 times more Co2 in the atmosphere than now... Tons more evidence available if one cares to look....

 

Do you have a link for any of this? Specifically the 31,000 scientists.

Anyone that knows me knows I am a bleeding heart liberal as far as the environment goes. Having said that real, not symbolic, political actions are needed. Whether man can stop global warming is not known. However, cleaning up our environment makes common sense. However, the Paris Treaty did not. It was a load of bull to make people feel like something was being done...and many of them the wrong things. At least 1/4 of the carbon put into the atmosphere is the result of deforestation which was even ignored by the treaty until 2015. Much of the deforestation is to establish palm oil plants. Who uses it- Indonesia, China and EU27. So the groups crying about the US pullout are the worst offenders. Also, deforestation targets if 2030 are voluntary, and what will happen anyway....offenders will just work faster.

 

Tropical deforistation is a serious issue. Brazil Amazon basin has gotten better the last few years. But a lot of CO2 loving tropical forest area was being destroyed annually down there.

Do you have a link for any of this? Specifically the 31,000 scientists.
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