So if you are using this logic to justify Trump's hypocrisy, couldn't someone then say the reason Obama didn't strike Syria is because of intel he had that Trump didn't?

 

Apparently not, Pres. Obama has stated that he made a mistake with Syria.

That's why we hit Syria hard and let them know that we're back to a stance that says "you hit us and we'll hit back a thousand times harder."

 

And that's not about being a bully and pushing people around, it's about saying "this is wrong and we don't put up with it."

 

I believe that's where Obama weakened the country in always being so cautious to take action and letting the US become less than the big kid on the block.

 

Don't get me wrong because everything can't be dealt with using hostility, but this was a drastic and evil move by Syria, so it's time to be the big kid on the block that protects the little kid from the bully.

 

Obama weakness ...

 

Went into Pakistan and killed Bin Laden.

 

US military actively engaged all 8 years he was in office.

 

Launched air strikes and/or raids in 7 Muslim countries - Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen, Somalia and Pakistan.

 

Approved and supported military action in Libya to remove Qaddafi (for me, this was the biggest mistake by Obama in foreign policy).

 

Ramped up military presence in Afghanistan to counter the Taliban et al.

 

Ramped up and supported the military initiative still going on in Iraq to remove ISIS.

 

Tremendously increased the use of drones and authorized attacks by drones.

 

Authorized numerous attacks by Navy SEALS and other elite units.

 

Obama waged a different kind of war. Most characterize him as weak because he did not put large amounts of troops into battle and in fact reduced troop counts in battle zones. But if you look at the track record, few Presidents ordered more military action than Obama did. Call him misguided if you want, but you can't call him weak.

Yeah, I think he appeared pretty weak.

Obama weakness ...

 

Went into Pakistan and killed Bin Laden.

 

US military actively engaged all 8 years he was in office.

 

Launched air strikes and/or raids in 7 Muslim countries - Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen, Somalia and Pakistan.

 

Approved and supported military action in Libya to remove Qaddafi (for me, this was the biggest mistake by Obama in foreign policy).

 

Ramped up military presence in Afghanistan to counter the Taliban et al.

 

Ramped up and supported the military initiative still going on in Iraq to remove ISIS.

 

Tremendously increased the use of drones and authorized attacks by drones.

 

Authorized numerous attacks by Navy SEALS and other elite units.

 

Obama waged a different kind of war. Most characterize him as weak because he did not put large amounts of troops into battle and in fact reduced troop counts in battle zones. But if you look at the track record, few Presidents ordered more military action than Obama did. Call him misguided if you want, but you can't call him weak.

 

Awesome!

Is this ship still steaming towards our destroyers?

Obama weakness ...

 

Went into Pakistan and killed Bin Laden.

 

US military actively engaged all 8 years he was in office.

 

Launched air strikes and/or raids in 7 Muslim countries - Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen, Somalia and Pakistan.

 

Approved and supported military action in Libya to remove Qaddafi (for me, this was the biggest mistake by Obama in foreign policy).

 

Ramped up military presence in Afghanistan to counter the Taliban et al.

 

Ramped up and supported the military initiative still going on in Iraq to remove ISIS.

 

Tremendously increased the use of drones and authorized attacks by drones.

 

Authorized numerous attacks by Navy SEALS and other elite units.

 

Obama waged a different kind of war. Most characterize him as weak because he did not put large amounts of troops into battle and in fact reduced troop counts in battle zones. But if you look at the track record, few Presidents ordered more military action than Obama did. Call him misguided if you want, but you can't call him weak.

 

Apologizing for America's arrogance.

 

He didn't kill bin Laden, but rather used intelligence from the Bush-era. The only thing Obama did was give the green-light when they located him.

 

The military deserves all the credit for that one.

 

If he approved military strikes, obviously he supported them, and was probably his advisors or generals that informed him that it was the correct thing to do.

 

Obama's dealing with ISIS was timid and reckless, at best.

 

Obama was weak on the handling of immigration and people in prison for breaking the law.

 

Here are 10 times Obama has humiliated our country with apologies.

 

Trying to be the nice guy to the world and being timid was very weak of him.

I recall Trump saying on TV that he new more about isis then the generals did.

 

I wonder why he has not devised a plan to wipe them out?

 

Could this be just another lie he told and that his followers are OK with?

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I recall Trump saying on TV that he new more about isis then the generals did.

 

I wonder why he has not devised a plan to wipe them out?

 

Could this be just another lie he told and that his followers are OK with?

 

Maybe he has. Why would he let the world know his plans and give ISIS time to prepare for it?

 

He hasn't been in office long, and things take time. Even if he has a plan, it would take time to implement it.

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Apologizing for America's arrogance.

 

He didn't kill bin Laden, but rather used intelligence from the Bush-era. The only thing Obama did was give the green-light when they located him.

 

The military deserves all the credit for that one.

 

If he approved military strikes, obviously he supported them, and was probably his advisors or generals that informed him that it was the correct thing to do.

 

Obama's dealing with ISIS was timid and reckless, at best.

 

Obama was weak on the handling of immigration and people in prison for breaking the law.

 

Here are 10 times Obama has humiliated our country with apologies.

 

Trying to be the nice guy to the world and being timid was very weak of him.

 

Hubris. :no:

Double

I recall Trump saying on TV that he new more about isis then the generals did.

 

I wonder why he has not devised a plan to wipe them out?

 

Could this be just another lie he told and that his followers are OK with?

 

He said Icees, he knows more about Icees.

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Apparently not, Pres. Obama has stated that he made a mistake with Syria.

 

He said how he handled Syria is his biggest regret but he has never stated what he would have done differently.

Apologizing for America's arrogance.

 

He didn't kill bin Laden, but rather used intelligence from the Bush-era. The only thing Obama did was give the green-light when they located him.

 

The military deserves all the credit for that one.

 

If he approved military strikes, obviously he supported them, and was probably his advisors or generals that informed him that it was the correct thing to do.

 

Obama's dealing with ISIS was timid and reckless, at best.

 

Obama was weak on the handling of immigration and people in prison for breaking the law.

 

Here are 10 times Obama has humiliated our country with apologies.

 

Trying to be the nice guy to the world and being timid was very weak of him.

 

We are arrogant. We always have been. We always will be.

 

Used intelligence from the Bush era? Is that why Bush found him?

 

Yes, the military deserves all of the credit for following the orders from their Commander In Chief at the time.

 

Obama sent more drone attacks than any POTUS in American history and then lied about how many civilians they killed in the process. That was Obama dealing with ISIS. Timid? No. Reckless? Yes. Needed to be done? Absolutely.

 

Wait, so Obama didn't kill Osama Bin Laden and deserves no credit for it but he gets blame for how local law enforcement and the local justice systems handle immigration? That doesn't make sense.

He said how he handled Syria is his biggest regret but he has never stated what he would have done differently.

 

No he didn't. I suppose he could make the same mistake twice, but something tells me he would handle things differently.

No he didn't. I suppose he could make the same mistake twice, but something tells me he would handle things differently.

 

Agreed. Just making sure we don't put words in his mouth. He could have sent in Seal Team 6 to assassinate Assad in the dark of night and that could have been an option on the table for all we know.