Much of what many people were quoting were talking about how he has a D-1 offer or that Big Ten offers don't grow on trees.

If it is solely based on D-1 offers then you have to throw the Walter kid in there because he has D-1 offers and didn't make top ten.

 

I haven't seen the Frederick kid play this year. I am thoroughly impressed with McNeil. I thought McNeil was better than him last year. Physically a better player and could create. I didn't see that from Frederick last year and like I said I haven't seen him this year.

I would venture to say that Frederick blossomed this summer and really improved his game and was able to start decking the ball when people ran him off the three line.

Did these coaches see him this year?

 

I'm sure their could be ulterior motives for they way they voted and the transparency could be questioned.

Maybe it is because he lives in Ohio? I may be wrong, but in their program that is where he went to middle school as its listed.

Winner Winner! Chicken Dinner!

 

This explains it.

 

That doesn't explain anything.

 

I have one of the ballots. The ballot is very simple and doesn't specify any criteria like only games against NKY D1 Teams count towards consideration.

That doesn't explain anything.

 

I have one of the ballots. The ballot is very simple and doesn't specify any criteria like only games against NKY D1 Teams count towards consideration.

 

But wouldn't that play into the minds of those voting? Six of them saw Player X against their team. Only two of them saw player Z

Much of what many people were quoting were talking about how he has a D-1 offer or that Big Ten offers don't grow on trees.

If it is solely based on D-1 offers then you have to throw the Walter kid in there because he has D-1 offers and didn't make top ten.

 

I haven't seen the Frederick kid play this year. I am thoroughly impressed with McNeil. I thought McNeil was better than him last year. Physically a better player and could create. I didn't see that from Frederick last year and like I said I haven't seen him this year.

I would venture to say that Frederick blossomed this summer and really improved his game and was able to start decking the ball when people ran him off the three line.

Did these coaches see him this year?

 

I'm sure their could be ulterior motives for they way they voted and the transparency could be questioned.

Maybe it is because he lives in Ohio? I may be wrong, but in their program that is where he went to middle school as its listed.

 

The consensus is CJ Fredrick is a top 3 player in NKY and he was voted the 8th best player in NKY among only about 1/3 of the teams in NKY. If we extrapolate the math out we get CJ somewhere in the teens.

 

Now your last two sentences make a lot more sense.

But wouldn't that play into the minds of those voting? Six of them saw Player X against their team. Only two of them saw player Z

 

It would certainly play into the minds of any coaches that have an anti-CJ and/or anti-CCH agenda.

Frederick's stats for games against his Div 1 counterparts.

2 games played. (Boone and Simon Kenton)

ppg 16 (32 total)

3pt % (2 for 10) 20%

rpg 2.5 (5 total)

 

McNeil's stats (6 games played, Conner,Ryle,Ryle,Dixie,Campbell,Scott)

21.3 ppg (128 total)

3pt % 52% (12for23)

rpg 7.2 (43 total)

 

That doesn't explain anything.

 

I have one of the ballots. The ballot is very simple and doesn't specify any criteria like only games against NKY D1 Teams count towards consideration.

 

I would assume it's just like we do in softball, only Division I coaches vote for Division I players, but don't have stats broke down vs. Division opponents.

It would certainly play into the minds of any coaches that have an anti-CJ and/or anti-CCH agenda.

 

I didn't realize that was the pre-determined end point that was being sought. Was just trying to throw some POSSIBLE logical explanations out there. We shall keep searching for the smoking gun on the grassy knoll then.

I would assume it's just like we do in softball, only Division I coaches vote for Division I players.

 

You are having a reading comprehension problem.

 

That is not the question being asked.

I didn't realize that was the pre-determined end point that was being sought. Was just trying to throw some POSSIBLE logical explanations out there. We shall keep searching for the smoking gun on the grassy knoll then.

 

You asked me a question, I gave you an answer. You can take your conspiracy theories somewhere else.

Fair warning everyone, I am going to delete all the off topic posts and if any of you persist you know the deal.

You are having a reading comprehension problem.

 

That is not the question being asked.

 

However, some folks might not know how the voting is done. Don't want to lump ALL NKY coaches in this "conspiracy".

However, some folks might not know how the voting is done. Don't want to lump ALL NKY coaches in this "conspiracy".

 

The first post in the thread lists the schools that voted.

 

Anything more is noise that is going to add to the confusion.

Frederick's stats for games against his Div 1 counterparts.

2 games played. (Boone and Simon Kenton)

ppg 16 (32 total)

3pt % (2 for 10) 20%

rpg 2.5 (5 total)

 

McNeil's stats (6 games played, Conner,Ryle,Ryle,Dixie,Campbell,Scott)

21.3 ppg (128 total)

3pt % 52% (12for23)

rpg 7.2 (43 total)

 

So, maybe only two of the teams casting votes saw CJ play this season, I sure think this could have an impact on how many total votes he received.

 

On the flip side, if a team didn't see him play, what criteria should be used when voting?

Until CJ commits some where and puts up good numbers in college or even plays at that college. Then you can say he was the highest recruit in this area the last 20yrs. Until then we will never know.

 

Yes you can say that ... he has offers from big east , big ten who else in 20 years has had both . What you donin college has zero about recruitment . Your point is not relevant to recruitment .

The consensus is CJ Fredrick is a top 3 player in NKY and he was voted the 8th best player in NKY among only about 1/3 of the teams in NKY. If we extrapolate the math out we get CJ somewhere in the teens.

 

Now your last two sentences make a lot more sense.

 

That does not really make sense. The vote had nothing to do with players on D2 and D3 teams in NKY.