I disagree. I think it's a QB on his way to being irrelevant in the NFL doing something for attention. I think it's simply symbolism over substance. The only thing he has to lose is possibly some endorsements that he seems to get very few of. His "stand" is he seems to think all white cops are racist, I completely disagree with him. Will he refuse to play a game in Chicago, where so many blacks are killed by other blacks? I betting no.

 

Is his stand against white America also against Rick and Teresa Kaepernick?

 

You've stated what you believe. I'm not sure how you want me to respond in any more detail.

Nothing like Black People telling us how much they are oppressed but have zero examples of said oppression. It's just the same old "Woe is me, I'm black and I am treated so badly although I can't think of an incident to support my claim"

 

You're right, it's all made up. Giant conspiracy.

You're right, it's all made up. Giant conspiracy.

Simply give us examples of what you can not do today that I can. That's all. Just wanting examples is all. Explain the oppression.

Yes it has! Would love to sit and talk with you!

 

I'm sad Mio's is gone. That spot was perfect.

While I think class inequality (something the new age social justice warriors miss the boat on) is the country's biggest issue, there are race disparities which still exist. Does it rise to the level of "oppression" in the sense of the word in which we normally use it? If it rises to the level in which you sit out the national anthem, would you want to live in this country, or leave it?

Simply give us examples of what you can not do today that I can. That's all. Just wanting examples is all. Explain the oppression.

 

Why don't we start with the justice system. Is your stance the the justice system from writing laws, enforcing laws, arresting people, jury decisions, etc is the same for blacks as it is for whites? Simple question.

It is amazing the short memories many have when it comes to Ali's ignorant and racist comments. They were much worse than anything CP has said.

Does it rise to the level of "oppression" in the sense of the word in which we normally use it?

 

There are certain trigger words that send white America into a tailspin. This is one of them.

 

We need a lot more substance before coming to a semi-intelligent decision on his stance.

It is amazing the short memories many have when it comes to Ali's ignorant and racist comments. They were much worse than anything CP has said.

 

Agreed.

Typical response from you when pressed to have a discussion to defend your stance.

 

 

I've given my stance to you a million times and just cause I whole heartedly disagree with you and decline to have the same discussion in every thread doesn't mean I'm not defending my stance. It means it's not worth my time to keep arguing with you.

 

It is his right to not stand, and I still think he's wrong. He's buying into a false narrative and trying to sell it with this half hearted attempt at "protest." Like I said earlier and I'm assuming you missed it as you're claiming I've not participated in the discussion. The overwhelming majority of police shootings are ruled justified and the ones that aren't are indicted, so once again, what else do you want?

 

So what exactly is your stance?

Simply give us examples of what you can not do today that I can. That's all. Just wanting examples is all. Explain the oppression.

 

I'm not wasting my time on your stubbornness to accept what is reality.

 

Pretending this stuff isn't going on is ignorant. Period.

Why don't we start with the justice system. Is your stance the the justice system from writing laws, enforcing laws, arresting people, jury decisions, etc is the same for blacks as it is for whites? Simple question.

 

That wasn't CK's statement, he stated the flag supports murderers.

That wasn't CK's statement, he stated the flag supports murderers.

 

He's not talking about CK's statement. It's a general question.

He's not talking about CK's statement. It's a general question.

 

That's not what the threads about. We can't keep starting threads and discussions on here about one specific thing and when it's not going the way we want, making it a different point.

I've given my stance to you a million times and just cause I whole heartedly disagree with you and decline to have the same discussion in every thread doesn't mean I'm not defending my stance. It means it's not worth my time to keep arguing with you.

 

It is his right to not stand, and I still think he's wrong. He's buying into a false narrative and trying to sell it with this half hearted attempt at "protest." Like I said earlier and I'm assuming you missed it as you're claiming I've not participated in the discussion. The overwhelming majority of police shootings are ruled justified and the ones that aren't are indicted, so once again, what else do you want?

 

So what exactly is your stance?

 

What stance? I cited examples of Ali in 67 and all you say is he was beloved and CK is no Ali. No one is saying he's Ali. I give examples and all you try to do is say I stole it from Mike Freeman. I then show you where I got his comments and ask for you to reply and I get an emoji. Either respond or move on. Too many occasions of you dodging questions.

 

My stance on CK is I don't care what he believes. He may be right. I don't live in the black world. I'm smart enough to know that that if his argument is that whites and blacks , as a whole, are not treated the same then I'd say that's an easy argument to support.

 

If he's saying that most police shootings of blacks are bad then he's wrong. My guess is he's saying there are way too many bad shootings vs saying "most are bad." I don't know though because we have no history of him explaining his thoughts - even though most on here seem to know exactly what he is saying.

 

Ali was hated worse than CK. It then changed with time. THAT is my original point.